RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,122
Posts: 5,401,034
Members: 24,743
Currently online: 544
Newest member: jessydhillon

TrekToday headlines

Trek Merchandise Sale
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek #39 Villain Revealed
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Trek Big Bang Figures
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek Seekers Cover Art
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Fan Film Axanar Kickstarter Success
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Two New Starship Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Actor Wins Emmy
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Retro Watches
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

New DS9 eBook To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Aug 25

Trek Ice Cube Maker and Shot Glasses
By: T'Bonz on Aug 25


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Welcome to the Trek BBS! > General Trek Discussion

General Trek Discussion Trek TV and cinema subjects not related to any specific series or movie.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old November 12 2012, 02:48 AM   #1
Dingo
Captain
 
Dingo's Avatar
 
Minbari vs. Klingon

I was watching a bit of Babylon 5 today and a though did strike me. In a squad on squad fight (5 vs 5) of Klingon warriors vs. Minbari warriors who would win?

I would assume with weaponry, skills and armor being equal the fight would be even given Minbari are physically quite redundant (I'd put them on the same level as Klingons for physical toughness).

I'd say at close range especially the fight could go either way.
Dingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 12 2012, 07:08 AM   #2
teacake
Admiral
 
teacake's Avatar
 
Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

Minbari would psyche them out in the end and kick their asses.
__________________

"Damnit Spock. God damnit!" Kirk ST:V
■ ■ ■
Janeway does Melbourne
teacake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 12 2012, 10:03 AM   #3
Drago-Kazov
Fleet Captain
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

Do klingons even fight in squads?
Drago-Kazov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 12 2012, 01:05 PM   #4
T'Girl
Vice Admiral
 
T'Girl's Avatar
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

As shown on the show, Klingons aren't particularly good hand to hand fighters. A heavily pregnant Kira once dropped one with a single kick to the tummy.

T'Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 12 2012, 01:18 PM   #5
Drago-Kazov
Fleet Captain
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

He had to be a newbie.
Drago-Kazov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 12 2012, 02:02 PM   #6
Hartzilla2007
Vice Admiral
 
Hartzilla2007's Avatar
 
Location: Star Trekkin Across the universe.
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

If it was the TOS Klingons all we would hear is the sound of their disruptors as they mow the Minbari down.
Hartzilla2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 13 2012, 12:46 AM   #7
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

Drago-Kazov wrote: View Post
Do klingons even fight in squads?
Yes.
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mr. Laser Beam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 13 2012, 01:32 AM   #8
Drago-Kazov
Fleet Captain
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

I know, i read the Krad klingon books. It's just the fact that we did not see any klingons fighting in units using small group tactics onscreen...
Drago-Kazov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 13 2012, 04:15 AM   #9
T'Girl
Vice Admiral
 
T'Girl's Avatar
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

In DS9, when the station was boarded/invaded by dozen and dozens of Klingons. Once on the station they fought as individuals, not even in pairs.

T'Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 13 2012, 07:13 PM   #10
Pavonis
Commodore
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

T'Girl wrote: View Post
As shown on the show, Klingons aren't particularly good hand to hand fighters. A heavily pregnant Kira once dropped one with a single kick to the tummy.

Are you certain about that? I can't think of any episode between "Body Parts" and "The Begotten" where Kira fought a Klingon hand-to-hand.
Pavonis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 13 2012, 08:39 PM   #11
Deranged Nasat
Vice Admiral
 
Deranged Nasat's Avatar
 
Location: I am here. You are here too. Yes.
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

In terms of a squad of each facing off, I think I'd go with the Minbari as the victors. I think it's because the Minbari have greater discipline. The warrior's life is similar to the life of all their people, regardless of which caste they're in - it's all about duty, self-improvement, acknowledgement of spiritual purpose. Functioning effectively as part of a larger group. The idealized Klingon warrior, which is what Worf attempts to be, is close to this, but in practice Klingons don't live up to those ideals. The discipline is lacking. They fight because they enjoy it, because it's an outlet for their frustrations, and because that's just what Klingons are "meant to do". It's all rather self-indulgent, both on an individual and a society-wide level. Minbari live in a society where such indulgence wouldn't be permitted - a warrior dedicates him- or herself to warriorhood with the intention of being the best he or she can; a Klingon is all too often just a guy who can wave a knife around and brawl.
__________________
We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.
Deranged Nasat is online now   Reply With Quote
Old November 14 2012, 12:27 AM   #12
EmperorTiberius
Captain
 
EmperorTiberius's Avatar
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

T'Girl wrote: View Post
As shown on the show, Klingons aren't particularly good hand to hand fighters. A heavily pregnant Kira once dropped one with a single kick to the tummy.

Surely you mean heavily pregnant, stabbed, Kira?
EmperorTiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 14 2012, 09:37 PM   #13
Fastwalker
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

Deranged Nasat wrote: View Post
I'd go with the Minbari as the victors. I think it's because the Minbari have greater discipline.
Completely agree with you Nasat. Klingons boast to be warriors who follow the code of honor. When in reality, to Worf's displeasure, its quite the opposite.

Minbari's Warrior Caste completely dedicate themselves to the Way of the Warrior. Not as a job, but as a state of being or religion. They hone their skills on a daily basis, even as a turret gunner, by themselves and part of a team. Plus, Minbari's civilization is many millennia older than both Klingon and Federation. IMHO, Minbari technology is more advance. (Which gives me an idea for a new topic. Thanks!)

Klingons do train as warriors. But they don't practice like the Minbari does as a religion. Most Klingons are too busy drinking, eating and brawling. Hardly proof they're tougher in combat. Its like the difference between a regular Army soldier versus Special Forces (e.g., SEALs, SAS, GSG9, etc.)
Fastwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 16 2012, 11:59 PM   #14
Dingo
Captain
 
Dingo's Avatar
 
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

It would be quite an interesting contest of a Batt'leth vs. a Minbari fighting pike. I would say the X-Factor is the Minbari discipline and utter dedication to their warrior ways. The Klingon's X-Factor is sheer ferocity.

I think a Dahar Master would be able to equal a Minbari warrior in terms of skill and mental discipline.

If this were a Deadliest Warrior Episode I would imagine the two Klingon experts being Worf and Martok with the Minbari experts being Neroon and Kalain. I can see Worf arguing vehemently that the Klingon warrior culture is equal to that of the Minbari.
Dingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 17 2012, 02:49 AM   #15
Nerys Myk
Fleet Admiral
 
Nerys Myk's Avatar
 
Location: House of Kang, now with ridges
Re: Minbari vs. Klingon

They should just headbutt each other like rams
__________________
The boring one, the one with Khan, the one where Spock returns, the one with whales, the dumb one, the last one, the one with Kirk, the one with the Borg, the stupid one, the bad one, the new one, the other one with Khan.
Nerys Myk is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.