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Old November 13 2012, 12:35 AM   #46
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

We're talking about his attitude, not that widget he used to contract space herpes in season 6.

Ye, gods I miss Firefly.
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Old November 13 2012, 12:59 AM   #47
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

Lurok is doing a Firefly rewatch thread in SF & F. He's just waiting for Miss Lemon to get the dvd's, he's already started the thread. If you want to come relive the verse.
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Old November 13 2012, 01:38 AM   #48
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I'm watching Browncoats Unite, a documentary they made during this years comicon.

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Old November 13 2012, 07:05 AM   #49
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

When did you stop talking about the 8472? I'm thinking of doing a research study on how fast the two of you can derail threads, even your own.
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Old November 13 2012, 07:10 AM   #50
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

It's only five posts back not counting your own that the discussion was still directly about Species 8472. Five posts isn't even a page. We can get back to Species 8472 any time, without even breaking a sweat.

I don't understand why there are no other species in fluidic space. What does Species 8472 eat?
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Old November 13 2012, 09:05 AM   #51
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

How the doctor described their biology, I'd think that they would be immune to food like we know food.

Although it takes 5 of them in an orgy to make a baby.

One of the sexes could just full of sedative to dull the carriers immunology so that "she" doesn't excrete the baby during a powerful hickup.

Are there planets in fluidic space, of do they live naturally freestyle in fluidic space?

No planets, where do they get the raw resources and infrastructure to make technology?

Wait!

They use/have bioships.

Are their ships are a slave life form, beasts of burden with no real sentience, or 8472 mutant/retarded orphans? Or is it like in Aliens where everything is built from the remains of their dead and resin?

Are we sure they are native to Fludic Space?

A million years ago they could have run into Fluidic space to explore or run away from a big bad.

There was no life in the 8 heavily explored galaxies surrounding Skaro according to a throwaway line in Genesis of the Daleks.

It's a mass scaled economy of the only child syndrome.
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Old November 13 2012, 11:22 AM   #52
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

Aren't we all only children until first contact is made though..

Are their ships are a slave life form, beasts of burden with no real sentience, or 8472 mutant/retarded orpahans?
Janeway would have wanted to save them, if they'd been the reject puppies of Species 8472.

So many interesting conjectures in your post and yet what did we get? Boothby.
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Old November 13 2012, 06:31 PM   #53
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It's only five posts back not counting your own that the discussion was still directly about Species 8472. Five posts isn't even a page. We can get back to Species 8472 any time, without even breaking a sweat.

I don't understand why there are no other species in fluidic space. What does Species 8472 eat?
They drink the fluids, of course!
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Old November 13 2012, 06:53 PM   #54
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How do we know there are no other species? Is it stated onscreen or just assumed?
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Old November 13 2012, 07:21 PM   #55
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It's only five posts back not counting your own that the discussion was still directly about Species 8472. Five posts isn't even a page. We can get back to Species 8472 any time, without even breaking a sweat.

I don't understand why there are no other species in fluidic space. What does Species 8472 eat?
Fludic space is a giant space whale
8472 is the immune system so the fludic space itself sustains them
all other races are virii/bacteria and thus evil and thus must perish hence their scorpion outlook
cue "I just want to live" from innocent bacteria race 8473
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Old November 13 2012, 09:42 PM   #56
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Re: Species 8472: What were their motives?

They really could have done with more giant space whales in Trek. Most things that are REALLY big turn out to be non-corporeal. Or machines.
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Old November 13 2012, 10:01 PM   #57
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JANEWAY: The Northwest Passage.
CHAKOTAY: It's clear of Borg activity for a very good reason.
TUVOK: I'm picking up one hundred and thirty-three bio-ships. More are appearing.
JANEWAY: From where?
TUVOK: They seem to be coming from a quantum singularity-
TORRES: I'm localising the gravimetric distortions.
CHAKOTAY: On screen.
JANEWAY: Kes? Anything?
KES: Yes. I can hear them. They come from a place where they're alone. Nothing else lives there.
CHAKOTAY: Some kind of parallel universe.
KES: I don't know. I feel malevolence, a cold hatred. The weak will perish. It's an invasion. They intend on destroying everything.
JANEWAY: Tom, reverse course, maximum warp. Take us five light years out and hold position.
PARIS: Aye, Captain.
JANEWAY: Maintain Red Alert. Commander.
First borns smother their siblings and blame it on the cat all the time.

Kes is overreacting to basic psychology.
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Old November 22 2012, 01:42 PM   #58
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Species 8472 lived alone in another realm/Galaxy called fluidic space.
the Borg Invaded it and wanted to assimilate them because they are the Apex of Biology.
they Failed and ended up getting their asses kicked,8472 entered the milky-way to defend themselves and to destroy all those other species willing to pollute their realm.
so get your facts straight, people just wanna bash Voyager at every opportunity they get.
In the Flesh,describes species 8472 as more cunning and preparing to assault the Alpha Quadrant while the Dominion war was about to end.
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Old November 22 2012, 02:21 PM   #59
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The colony of Species 8472 spies may have become too successful at impersonating Starfleet personnel they slowly abandoned their original omnicidal alien mindset and became more human? That happened in a episode of TOS featuring aliens from Andromeda (who were also described as terribly aggressive and alien).
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Old November 22 2012, 08:47 PM   #60
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But human sex is two and a half times less adventurous.
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