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View Poll Results: Rate The Persistence of Memory.
Outstanding 71 56.35%
Above Average 41 32.54%
Average 12 9.52%
Below Average 1 0.79%
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Old November 13 2012, 04:11 PM   #286
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But Star Trek Online and Countdown are not one and the same. Treklit and STO could both include Countdown in their post-Nemesis continuities, while getting there in different ways and then taking different directions afterwards.
Data's exact words from Countdown are that "my neural nets were successfully imprinted onto B-4's existing programming." That reference was no doubt the basis for the STO version, which elaborated on it. And there's no way to reconcile that statement with TPoM, in which only Data's memories, not his neural net, were downloaded into B-4, and it was a failed imprint that almost killed B-4.
Ack. I'd forgotten about that. I remembered only that Data preferred the term "return" to "resurrection"

Maybe I'm not so sure about that prediction, after all
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Old November 13 2012, 05:53 PM   #287
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And also, he's in a very different body too - something more akin to the appearance of Soong from Birthright on the book's cover?
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Old November 13 2012, 06:14 PM   #288
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And also, he's in a very different body too - something more akin to the appearance of Soong from Birthright on the book's cover?
That's not too much of a leap if he decides to fix his chameleon circuit.
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Old November 13 2012, 07:16 PM   #289
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Drawing on a character from a given Trek story doesn't require acknowledging that whole story's continuity as "real" -- any more than Batman comics acknowledged the Batman: The Animated Series continuity as real when they incorporated Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya into their distinct version of the universe. Heck, in Forgotten History I included a Klingon captain from the post-TMP comic strips!
True, and IIRC, Beneath the Raptor's Wing mentioned a character from Starfleet: Year One.
You mean Lydia Littlejohn? Yeah, I think SCE also mentioned her.
It did.
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Old November 13 2012, 08:15 PM   #290
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And also, he's in a very different body too - something more akin to the appearance of Soong from Birthright on the book's cover?
That's not too much of a leap if he decides to fix his chameleon circuit.
But it did feel like Mack was consciously avoiding Countdown's Data, and making a new figure. And who knows what will happen by Cold Equation's end?
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Old November 13 2012, 08:27 PM   #291
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She's also in Destiny, according to Memory Beta.
Right. Dave created Šmrhová in Destiny, introducing her as the relief security officer, and now he's brought the character back. Destiny came out half a year before Countdown. So I don't know where this claim is coming from that Šmrhová is a character from Countdown.
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Old November 13 2012, 08:29 PM   #292
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I just finished reading it and I loved it! I'm really happy about one thing that happened in it, but I'm also a bit sad about another thing...



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Old November 13 2012, 08:31 PM   #293
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I just want to pop in and thank everyone who has bought this book so far — you've helped it to debut at #30 on the Nov. 18, 2012, New York Times extended list for mass-market paperback fiction. Your support has helped me become, after more than a decade of writing books, a "New York Times bestselling author." And for that, I thank you.
You deserve it! That was a fantastic read! I can't wait for parts 2 and 3.

I guess I need to track down Immortal Coil now.
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Old November 13 2012, 08:49 PM   #294
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I just want to pop in and thank everyone who has bought this book so far — you've helped it to debut at #30 on the Nov. 18, 2012, New York Times extended list for mass-market paperback fiction. Your support has helped me become, after more than a decade of writing books, a "New York Times bestselling author." And for that, I thank you.
Really loved the book and am hard at work on my review for Trek.FM. You have knocked it out of the park again sir!
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Old November 17 2012, 08:39 PM   #295
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I finally finished it. Not certain about it's rating. How dangerous is it with B-4 and Data available to be used by the Breen to make and/or activate the assembled androids? I see Data as not being resurrected by upgraded and reanimated.
Finally the Enterprise-E security chief again has a short tenure in that position.
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Old November 17 2012, 11:40 PM   #296
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And who knows what will happen by Cold Equation's end?
So is there an overarching plot that extends through all three of these books?
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Old November 18 2012, 06:34 PM   #297
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There are some continuing plot elements that weave through the entire trilogy, yes. But I also structured it so that, unlike the Destiny trilogy, each of the three volumes in Cold Equations would be a complete story in its own right.
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Old November 19 2012, 04:11 PM   #298
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My full review is up at Trek.fm
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Old November 19 2012, 07:55 PM   #299
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A little heads up: Chronic Rift has put up an Interview with David Mack about the trilogy: http://chronicrift.com/node/2744

Haven't listened to it yet, but will do so on my commute to work tomorrow.
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Old November 19 2012, 08:00 PM   #300
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Mr. Mack, was there a backup plan by Soong in case his positronic matrix suffered cascade failure?
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