Why are there no Nuts / Bolts / Screws in Star Trek? - Page 3

Gary Mitchell · November 9 2012, 05:25 AM

Ti-BOO!-rius wrote:

Gary7 wrote:

Frankly, I'm more curious as to why there's an "L" in solder, since it isn't pronounced. It is with bolder, colder, folder, holder... Maybe they thought there would be too much confusion with "sod", a kind of soil. Yet, nobody worried about "lead" (the metal, versus the verb). The wonderfully illogical language called English, at your service.

I pronounce the L...

SOLL-DA

Does anyone understand what you're saying? If someone asked me to hand them what you said, I'd probably hand them a can of Coke.

T'Girl · November 9 2012, 06:34 AM

Ti-BOO!-rius wrote:

Gary7 wrote:

Frankly, I'm more curious as to why there's an "L" in solder, since it isn't pronounced.

I pronounce the L...

So do I. "Sol" as in the name of our sun (or "soul"). Followed by "durr."

Certainly not "sew -dah."

Festering Esper wrote:

I'd probably hand them a can of Coke.

Gary7 · November 9 2012, 07:00 AM

^ Well folks, just mosey on over to Webster's dictionary website for solder, and click on the speaker icon for pronunciation. Me no hear "L". \ˈsä-dər, ˈsȯ-, British also ˈsäl-dər,
I guess the Brits say the "L"...

scotpens · November 9 2012, 07:11 AM

Gary7 wrote:

Frankly, I'm more curious as to why there's an "L" in solder, since it isn't pronounced. It is with bolder, colder, folder, holder... Maybe they thought there would be too much confusion with "sod", a kind of soil.

In the UK, "sod" has quite a different meaning.

EmperorTiberius · November 9 2012, 07:12 AM

Therin of Andor wrote:

jayrath wrote:

Do you find screws, nuts and bolts dramatically compelling?

They are riveting.

chrinFinity · November 9 2012, 07:58 AM

I was watching Fury the other day and I noticed the frame of Voyager's warp core (which Kes leans on to absorb time travel power) has screws on it, but they're flush. Probably not supposed to notice them.

Tiberius · November 9 2012, 10:48 AM

Festering Esper wrote:

Ti-BOO!-rius wrote:

Gary7 wrote:

Frankly, I'm more curious as to why there's an "L" in solder, since it isn't pronounced. It is with bolder, colder, folder, holder... Maybe they thought there would be too much confusion with "sod", a kind of soil. Yet, nobody worried about "lead" (the metal, versus the verb). The wonderfully illogical language called English, at your service.

I pronounce the L...

SOLL-DA

Does anyone understand what you're saying? If someone asked me to hand them what you said, I'd probably hand them a can of Coke.

It doesn't rhyme with SODA.

That's SO-DA. As in "Make it so!"

I say SOLDER to rhyme with SOLDIER, except it's a D sound in the middle, not a J.

T'Girl · November 9 2012, 10:57 AM

My Son the Vampire wrote:

In the UK, "sod" has quite a different meaning.

When my parents neighbor was putting in her yard a big truck with squares of sod arrived, the workers then "sod'ered" her front yard.

Gary7 wrote:

^ Well folks, just mosey on over to Webster's dictionary website for solder, and click on the speaker icon for pronunciation.

Which accent did the speaker employ? British, new'england, mid'Atlantic, mid'west, southern, southwest, west coast?

I speak American Pacific north-west English, with a slight Spanish accent.

How about you?

Nightdiamond · November 11 2012, 01:56 AM

Look at trek Generations during the scene where Kirk is on a metalic brdge about to collpase. It was held to the rock face with nuts and bolts, and chains too for that matter.

R. Star · November 11 2012, 02:19 AM

Nightdiamond wrote:

Look at trek Generations during the scene where Kirk is on a metalic brdge about to collpase. It was held to the rock face with nuts and bolts, and chains too for that matter.

Clearly Soran was having budget issues. He hired mercenaries using a 20 year old bird of prey and built his evil fortress out of antiquated materials. We all saw how well that held up too!

Nightdiamond · November 11 2012, 02:49 AM

Zombie Redshirt wrote:

Nightdiamond wrote:

Look at trek Generations during the scene where Kirk is on a metalic brdge about to collpase. It was held to the rock face with nuts and bolts, and chains too for that matter.

Clearly Soran was having budget issues. He hired mercenaries using a 20 year old bird of prey and built his evil fortress out of antiquated materials. We all saw how well that held up too!

That is funny seeing what he used to build his platform with all that technology laying around.

No fancy, advanced polymers or anything? Even the missle was rocket propelled. Lol

sojourner · November 11 2012, 03:26 AM

Yeah, his whole operation probably was paid for out of his pocket change.

Gary7 · November 12 2012, 06:56 AM

T'Girl wrote:

Which accent did the speaker employ? British, new'england, mid'Atlantic, mid'west, southern, southwest, west coast?

I speak American Pacific north-west English, with a slight Spanish accent.

How about you?

Sounded northern mid'west to me, but it's hard to pinpoint with single words (a full sentence would help dramatically). I grew up in lower New York, but have a "national" kind of Caucasian accent, with just an occasional hint of NY. I can sometimes slide into a slight Eastern Canadian accent, which is handy when traveling in the numerous regions where Americans are no longer appreciated.

Anyway, I think that most Star Trek gadgetry is assembled together in ways that minimizes the use of screws, plus they may employ some other interlocking technique that uses something like a screw but is far more robust (i.e. won't strip or fall out completely).

T'Girl · November 13 2012, 01:35 AM

Gary7 wrote:

I grew up in lower New York, but have a "national" kind of Caucasian accent, with just an occasional hint of NY.

Cool.

EmperorTiberius · November 15 2012, 04:19 AM

If you guys are having so much time omitting one "L", how do you deal with pronouncing "forecastle"?

November 9 2012, 07:00 AM	#33
Gary7 Rear Admiral Location: Near Manhattan ··· in an alternate reality	Re: Why are there no Nuts / Bolts / Screws in Star Trek? ^ Well folks, just mosey on over to Webster's dictionary website for solder, and click on the speaker icon for pronunciation. Me no hear "L". \ˈsä-dər, ˈsȯ-, British also ˈsäl-dər, I guess the Brits say the "L"... __________________ Remembering Ensign Mallory.

November 9 2012, 07:58 AM	#36
chrinFinity Commander Location: Scmocation	Re: Why are there no Nuts / Bolts / Screws in Star Trek? I was watching Fury the other day and I noticed the frame of Voyager's warp core (which Kes leans on to absorb time travel power) has screws on it, but they're flush. Probably not supposed to notice them. __________________ i hate everything

November 11 2012, 01:56 AM	#39
Nightdiamond Fleet Captain Location: California	Re: Why are there no Nuts / Bolts / Screws in Star Trek? Look at trek Generations during the scene where Kirk is on a metalic brdge about to collpase. It was held to the rock face with nuts and bolts, and chains too for that matter.

November 11 2012, 03:26 AM	#42
sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: Why are there no Nuts / Bolts / Screws in Star Trek? Yeah, his whole operation probably was paid for out of his pocket change. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

November 15 2012, 04:19 AM	#45
EmperorTiberius Captain	Re: Why are there no Nuts / Bolts / Screws in Star Trek? If you guys are having so much time omitting one "L", how do you deal with pronouncing "forecastle"?

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