I need to run this by some people...

[teacake]

Gaith wrote:

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(Doc Brown felt the same way)

As did Captain Kirk but it had no effect on his score card.

[An Officer]

Kommander wrote:

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People act a certain way and do certain things when they're attracted to someone, and act differently when they are not. I've become very good at spotting these behaviours. She's displayed all of them. Because I'm aware of what these behaviours are, I tend to suppress them unless I catch myself doing it and consciously prevent the suppression. Even when people don't know to look for these behaviours, they still pick up on them.

This, I have to hear more about, in detail!
It would be really interesting from the perspective of someone who's been looking in to human sexuality quite seriously....

[teacake]

"I may be new to individuality, but I'm not ignorant of human behavior. I've noticed your attempts to engage me in idle conversation. And I see the way your pupils dilate when you look at my body."

Even the Borg can tell.

[An Officer]

Are you trying to engage me in idle conversation? Haha!

The Borg have superior senses, they are not to be be spoken of triflingly.

[teacake]

I am looking into your avatar's eyes but that's to be expected.

[An Officer]

Where many women have gone before... and we all know how that ends...

[teacake]

With.. dilation?

[An Officer]

After a fashion... but really, this far and no further!

[teacake]

He assimilates entire women!

[Kommander]

An Officer wrote:

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This, I have to hear more about, in detail!
It would be really interesting from the perspective of someone who's been looking in to human sexuality quite seriously....

Pretty much this:

teacock wrote:

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"I may be new to individuality, but I'm not ignorant of human behavior. I've noticed your attempts to engage me in idle conversation. And I see the way your pupils dilate when you look at my body."

Even the Borg can tell.

Although, actually saying that line, while it would totally work on me, most would probably find it awkward and off-putting.

This article is mostly accurate, but doesn't include everything. Most of the other stuff I got from a quick Google search are "Guys, increase your game!" and "How to tell if that guy you like is into you" articles that are either mostly bullshit or misapplying the research. One of the big ones not mentioned in that article is touch. With heterosexuals, when there's some mutual attraction going on, the woman will usually touch the man. Brushing a piece of lint off his sleeve, grabbing his forearm while laughing excessively at one of his lame jokes, touching his hand when saying something sincere, that sort of thing. If a man does this sort of thing to a woman before she does it to him, it usually comes off as very awkward. Gay people do this too, but being the same sex either one of them can do it without making things awkward.

Although, it's difficult to apply this stuff to non-research purposes, like those 'improve your game" articles. These things could have other reasons for occurring that people dismiss. Looking for these things in someone that one is attracted to almost always leads to people seeing what they want to see; they notice one thing that fits the behavior and then assume the person is interested in them. I look for these things, but I don't make positive assumptions based purely on them. The touch thing is probably the primary thing I look for, as it seems to be the most consistent. However, I don't assume a woman is interested in me if she touches me, rather, I assume she's not interested unless she touches me. When it does happen, I look for other reasons. Like, if a woman trips near me and grabs my forearm, it probably means she just didn't want to fall on her ass.

[teacake]

The voice thing has always interested me. I've long been aware that women raise the pitch of their voice when talking about men they like. I've annoyed a few friends over the years by bluntly calling them on their attraction to a guy they are telling me a boring story about. It's all very obvious within a couple sentences but you quickly develop a reputation as a mind reader if you do it too often. As to why I call them on it, it's a combination of innate trolling and getting immediately to the point so I don't have to play the role of the mirror person that reflects their conversation back to them as a way of affirming the attraction.

But what I have had difficulty understanding is when men do this, raise their voice pitch in a sweet and fake kind of way to talk to women. I get the impression they do it to seem like a nice guy, to seem sensitive. It's a huge red flag to me. If I hear any guy putting on that voice I don't trust them at all.

[Kestra]

I came back to follow-up in this thread but I'm completely lost now. So just want to say, good luck if you do pursue this girl!

[teacake]

I think we're hip deep in the nitty gritty gears of Kommander asking this girl to have coffee. Our palms are sweaty and the smell of oil is in the air.

[FPAlpha]

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Gaith wrote:

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Well, yeah, if you want to be all reasonable and level-headed about things.

Well.. don't knock it till you've tried it. I thought similar like you until i got over myself and went for it.. sometimes you strike out and sometimes you don't.

As i said you are halfway there.. there already is sympathy between you so getting a rude turndown is highly unlikely.

If that's you in your avatar i'd say you are also not ugly or repulsive (might think about a new hairstyle though but that's just personal opinion).

All the thinking and research and whatnot you do will not solve your problem.. in this case Nike had it down best when they said "Just do it".

Good luck.

[RJDiogenes]

Kommander wrote:

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The differences between men and women are greatly exaggerated. Other humans are often a great mystery, but very little of it is related to sex or gender.

This is exactly right. Women are no mystery-- they are individuals. That's one reason your story was such a great idea, whether it ultimately works or not.