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Old November 7 2012, 12:57 AM   #61
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Re: TNG: Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Does the book have annotations for all the reference?
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Old November 7 2012, 02:24 AM   #62
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Does the book have annotations for all the reference?
No. And I never needed one.
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Old November 7 2012, 07:56 AM   #63
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Re: TNG: Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang Review Thread (Spoilers!)

I just want to thank you all for getting me back into reading Star Trek books. I was an avid reader up until about six months ago, but I just became so bored by it all. Then I saw this thread and a remember enjoying this book when it first came out. This time, I really enjoyed it. Being a fan of The Original Series, I had no problem getting all of the references and it is a credit to Jeffrey Lang that all of these cameos wasn't to the detriment of the story.

Yes, there are a couple of criticisms that other posters have outlined, but that was pushed aside by the excellent addition of Rhea McAdams and "Emil Vaslovik". I enjoyed it so much, I moved straigh on to The Persistence of Memory.
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Old November 7 2012, 11:16 AM   #64
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You don't even know that there's all that universe-bridging material until you've read through the book
Well, you do if you know TOS. And "The Questor Tapes". Each new cameo is a little revelation and you end up anticipating more and more.

why wouldn't people have wanted, say, an index in the back?
Some did. Understandably, TNG-only fans thought they'd missed something important when they realised how many TOS cameos there were. But they were mostly easter eggs, secret little winks for those in the know.
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Old November 7 2012, 11:46 AM   #65
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Don't forget about the Discworld books. Some of the funniest stuff in those is in the footnotes.
Oh, with that in mind, the same is true about Good Omens.

Damn, I really need to start working on the Discworld books...
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Old November 7 2012, 05:40 PM   #66
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I'm halfway through this novel and really like how Data was written in this novel.He certainly got more charcter developement than some of the older TNG books I've read recently.This is a great book I really like it alot.

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Old November 7 2012, 06:16 PM   #67
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I enjoyed the novel but found the Questor connection to be overly cute. I felt the same way about the Millenium Falcon showing up in Vanguard.

It did feel a bit small universe but it was interesting to sort of tie things together, just to see how they'd fit.
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Old November 10 2012, 05:58 PM   #68
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I enjoyed the novel but found the Questor connection to be overly cute. I felt the same way about the Millenium Falcon showing up in Vanguard.
The Millennium Falcon was in Vanguard? When, where, who was the owner? Was the ship design hinted at or the name called out loud?

As far as I know, the MF is a 24th century Federation starship participating the Battle of Sector 001 (First Contact).
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Old November 10 2012, 07:48 PM   #69
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I enjoyed the novel but found the Questor connection to be overly cute. I felt the same way about the Millenium Falcon showing up in Vanguard.
The Millennium Falcon was in Vanguard? When, where, who was the owner? Was the ship design hinted at or the name called out loud?

As far as I know, the MF is a 24th century Federation starship participating the Battle of Sector 001 (First Contact).
Well, actually it was mynocks that showed up in Vanguard. Or nymocks, to use their devious alias. They were chewing on power cables, of course.
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Old November 10 2012, 08:20 PM   #70
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^ I think RPJOB was referring to a ship described in the series' fifth novel, Precipice. In a scene featuring T'Prynn and Pennington, on page 74, last paragraph:
“No, Mister Pennington. We are going to steal one.” She wasted no time selecting a ship. “That one,” she said, nodding at a teardrop-shaped craft with a protruding pod on the starboard side.
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Old November 10 2012, 08:22 PM   #71
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^ I think RPJOB was referring to a ship described in the series' fifth novel, Precipice. In a scene featuring T'Prynn and Pennington, on page 74, last paragraph:
“No, Mister Pennington. We are going to steal one.” She wasted no time selecting a ship. “That one,” she said, nodding at a teardrop-shaped craft with a protruding pod on the starboard side.
Oh! I missed that.
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Old November 10 2012, 11:29 PM   #72
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^That's awesome, I missed it too
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Old November 11 2012, 01:23 AM   #73
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There's also some cuteness around "nymock" creatures (play on "mynock") in the same section IIRC.
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Old November 11 2012, 10:25 AM   #74
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^ I think RPJOB was referring to a ship described in the series' fifth novel, Precipice. In a scene featuring T'Prynn and Pennington, on page 74, last paragraph:
“No, Mister Pennington. We are going to steal one.” She wasted no time selecting a ship. “That one,” she said, nodding at a teardrop-shaped craft with a protruding pod on the starboard side.
Loved that, one of the geekiest moments in TrekLit. I had to read it three times to make sure I didn't misread it.
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Old November 11 2012, 02:43 PM   #75
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I don't think I ever would've read that as a Millennium Falcon reference. When I read "teardrop-shaped," I visualize something that's shaped that way three-dimensionally, kinda like the fuselage of SpaceShipOne or the Protector from Galaxy Quest. To me, the Falcon is a saucer-shaped ship with "pincers" on the front.

And why is a reference to Star Wars geekier than a whole novel about Star Trek?
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