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Old November 6 2012, 10:11 PM   #46
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Re: Was Star Trek 11 too similar to Star Wars?

Similar enough to draw comparisons but, as stated, that isn't a bad thing.

I suspect the next film will double-down and cliff-hang a la TESB! YHIHF
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Old November 6 2012, 10:29 PM   #47
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Re: Was Star Trek 11 too similar to Star Wars?

This thread is delightfully revealing of those who cannot fundamentally accept someone having an opinion contrary to theirs, so their must be something wrong with them worth insulting and demeaning.
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Old November 6 2012, 10:51 PM   #48
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Re: Was Star Trek 11 too similar to Star Wars?

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This thread is delightfully revealing of those who cannot fundamentally accept someone having an opinion contrary to theirs, so their must be something wrong with them worth insulting and demeaning.
You're absolutely right. I take back everything I said about the Wampa dying and I apologize to everyone who I insulted and demeaned who thought the Wampa would live.
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Old November 7 2012, 12:07 AM   #49
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Re: Was Star Trek 11 too similar to Star Wars?

Dukhat wrote: View Post
Zombie Redshirt wrote: View Post
This thread is delightfully revealing of those who cannot fundamentally accept someone having an opinion contrary to theirs, so their must be something wrong with them worth insulting and demeaning.
You're absolutely right. I take back everything I said about the Wampa dying and I apologize to everyone who I insulted and demeaned who thought the Wampa would live.
Well yes, that of course, and this sort of thing:

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This is one of the usual flimsy excuses bandied about by the Trek XI haters to justify why they're completely incapable of liking the film for its own merits.
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I love the "Statler" and "Waldorf" quality of this thread:

Crap! It was nothing like Star Wars!
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Well, there were some Star Wars bits (Besides, JJ had no choice).
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OK, it was pretty damned similar, but that's a good thing!

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Old November 7 2012, 01:13 AM   #50
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This thread is delightfully revealing of those who cannot fundamentally accept someone having an opinion contrary to theirs, so their must be something wrong with them worth insulting and demeaning.
You know, R. Star, I'm pretty sure I've asked you before not to do that.

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I love the "Statler" and "Waldorf" quality of this thread:
I think it was funnier when it was... "Statdor and Waldo"?
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Old November 7 2012, 01:31 AM   #51
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Well yes, that of course, and this sort of thing:

Dukhat wrote: View Post
This is one of the usual flimsy excuses bandied about by the Trek XI haters to justify why they're completely incapable of liking the film for its own merits.
...
I love the "Statler" and "Waldorf" quality of this thread:

Crap! It was nothing like Star Wars!
...
Well, there were some Star Wars bits (Besides, JJ had no choice).
...
OK, it was pretty damned similar, but that's a good thing!
I stand by what I wrote.
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Old November 7 2012, 03:26 AM   #52
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Re: Was Star Trek 11 too similar to Star Wars?

I'm not a STXI hater.
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Old November 7 2012, 04:00 AM   #53
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In all honesty I said back in the 80s that Star Trek needed to adopt some aspects of Star Wars. I am glad that they actually did that. For instance, one complaint is that the Enterprise going to warp was more like Star Wars. I like this change, it adds a sense of realism that the other effect lacked.
I don't get what's so great about Trek XI's warp effect over the others. I found Trek XI's warp effect to be ridiculously cartoony while the simplistic effect seen throughout much of modern Trek is just perfect, IMO.
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Old November 7 2012, 05:26 AM   #54
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I love the "Statler" and "Waldorf" quality of this thread:
I think it was funnier when it was... "Statdor and Waldo"?
From what I gather you're probably right (more appropriate anyway perhaps). But at the time I was just in a panic because I thought I stuffed up.


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I'm not a STXI hater.
I knew that.


Personally I have no problem with including SW aspects in ST. In fact I think it would be great if Star Trek could embrace some of Star Wars’ moral focus, social optimism and powerful themes and issues.
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Old November 7 2012, 05:27 AM   #55
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People people lets not forget the Klingon masks that look like Darth Vader inspired helmets.
http://img.trekmovie.com/wp-content/...tedklingon.jpg

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Also here is that deleted scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W66bSajPGtQ

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Old November 7 2012, 06:03 AM   #56
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People people lets not forget the Klingon masks that look like Darth Vader inspired helmets.
You are incredibly reaching now.
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Old November 7 2012, 06:15 AM   #57
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Lightsabers tend to cauterize wounds.
Pish! Not originally.
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Old November 7 2012, 11:27 AM   #58
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Re: Was Star Trek 11 too similar to Star Wars?

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People people lets not forget the Klingon masks that look like Darth Vader inspired helmets.
http://img.trekmovie.com/wp-content/...tedklingon.jpg

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A Klingon Warrior does not hide his face from those he would kill.*DISHONOR ON ALL YOUR HOUSES

Also here is that deleted scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W66bSajPGtQ
Don't forget, the Enterprise is a spaceship, JUST LIKE the Millennium Falcon.

And they wore CLOTHES, just like Star Wars characters wore clothes.
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Old November 7 2012, 11:52 AM   #59
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Watch the special features for Star Trek 2009. The concept art for the Klingons with the helmet made it look like they were going for a Darth Vader look to me.

Now I understand why they wanted to use the masks. To avoid the whole ridged and non-ridged Klingon issue from the TOS-era. Thought if I used hyperbole in my post people would see it was meant to be funny.

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Old November 7 2012, 02:09 PM   #60
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Thought if I used hyperbole in my post people would see it was meant to be funny.
Trust me, humour doesn't catch on very well in this forum.
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