Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! - Page 15

DWF · November 5 2012, 04:58 AM

Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived.

Gaith · November 5 2012, 05:11 AM

DWF wrote:

Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived.

Dude works on a floating aircraft carrier. "Real life" ain't exactly a factor here.

Next question?

Set Harth · November 5 2012, 05:26 AM

Doing what they did with Coulson reflects a real lack of vision.

Temis the Vorta · November 5 2012, 07:27 AM

The First Rule of Science Fiction:

If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.

Christopher · November 5 2012, 02:40 PM

Gaith wrote:

DWF wrote:

Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived.

Dude works on a floating aircraft carrier. "Real life" ain't exactly a factor here.

Next question?

There are a lot of supposedly realistic shows and movies wherein the lead characters suffer serious injuries, often multiple times, and are able to recover fully and stay on the job with no loss of performance. So yeah, it'd be fanciful compared to real life, but within the range of accepted breaks from reality in fiction.

Captaindemotion · November 5 2012, 10:08 PM

^ Jack Bauer 'died' twice in 24 and was back in action within an hour (in the series continuity), while Tony Almeida died in Season 5 and came back for season 7.

So for a show set in a world which features Norse Gods (sorry, aliens), super-serum-powered soldiers and gamma powered monsters, this shouldn't be a big deal.

Dream · November 5 2012, 10:22 PM

Temis the Friendly Ghost wrote:

The First Rule of Science Fiction:

If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.

But... but we saw Spock's body!

Satyrquaze · November 5 2012, 10:24 PM

Captaindemotion wrote:

^ Jack Bauer 'died' twice in 24 and was back in action within an hour (in the series continuity), while Tony Almeida died in Season 5 and came back for season 7.

That's nothing: also on 24, Nadia went back and forth on her romantic feelings between Doyle and Milo no less than three times over the course of four hours on Day 6. I mean, I realize they only work in the CTU, but would it kill these people to concentrate on their jobs during a crisis situation?

Captaindemotion · November 5 2012, 10:29 PM

^Not quite germane to the whole Coulson-back-from-the-dead thing though...

Satyrquaze · November 5 2012, 10:30 PM

Captaindemotion wrote:

^Not quite germane to the whole Coulson-back-from-the-dead thing though...

Point taken.

Temis the Vorta · November 5 2012, 10:35 PM

Dream wrote:

Temis the Friendly Ghost wrote:

The First Rule of Science Fiction:

If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.

But... but we saw Spock's body!

Covered by the Second Rule of Science Fiction:

Even if you did see the body, they're still probably not really dead.

Kegg · November 5 2012, 10:42 PM

Third Rule:
If the actor is dead, they'll probably get recast when they're brought back to life.

Kaijima · November 5 2012, 11:24 PM

My own notion for the Coulson controversy would be: Coulson comes back with no explanation. Everyone is confused, but knows better than to inquire too far into Fury's machinations if it's above their pay grade.

Then eventually it's revealed that Coulson is really a Life Model Decoy, and is treated basically as a disposable agent. Perhaps Coulson is the first prototype LMD, patterned after one of SHIELD's most successful agents. "Coulson" dies (is destroyed) repeatedly, as a kind of grim mockery of the real man who died on the helicarrier. Leaving everyone aghast at just how cold Fury can be.

It's the kind of dark thing Whedon would enjoy, I suspect.

Tom Hendricks · November 6 2012, 03:11 AM

So Coulson would die in each episode, I like it.

jbny67 · November 6 2012, 03:16 AM

Oh my God.... They killed Coulson!
You Bastards!

November 5 2012, 04:58 AM	#211
DWF Vice Admiral Location: Columbus, Ohio	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived. __________________ The greatest science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!" --- Harlan Ellison, from his introduction to the PINNACLE series of Doctor Who books

November 5 2012, 05:26 AM	#213
Set Harth Rear Admiral Location: Ekkaia	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! Doing what they did with Coulson reflects a real lack of vision. __________________ "Your grandfather called me a ronin. A samurai without a master. Who has no reason to live." "Was he right?"

November 5 2012, 07:27 AM	#214
Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Location: Tatoinne	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! The First Rule of Science Fiction: If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.

November 5 2012, 10:08 PM	#216
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! ^ Jack Bauer 'died' twice in 24 and was back in action within an hour (in the series continuity), while Tony Almeida died in Season 5 and came back for season 7. So for a show set in a world which features Norse Gods (sorry, aliens), super-serum-powered soldiers and gamma powered monsters, this shouldn't be a big deal. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

November 5 2012, 10:29 PM	#219
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! ^Not quite germane to the whole Coulson-back-from-the-dead thing though... __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

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November 5 2012, 10:42 PM	#222
Kegg Rear Admiral Location: Ireland.	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! Third Rule: If the actor is dead, they'll probably get recast when they're brought back to life. __________________ 'Spock is always right, even when he's wrong. It's the tone of voice, the supernatural reasonability; this is not a man like us; this is a god.' - Philip K. Dick

November 5 2012, 11:24 PM	#223
Kaijima Captain Location: United States	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! My own notion for the Coulson controversy would be: Coulson comes back with no explanation. Everyone is confused, but knows better than to inquire too far into Fury's machinations if it's above their pay grade. Then eventually it's revealed that Coulson is really a Life Model Decoy, and is treated basically as a disposable agent. Perhaps Coulson is the first prototype LMD, patterned after one of SHIELD's most successful agents. "Coulson" dies (is destroyed) repeatedly, as a kind of grim mockery of the real man who died on the helicarrier. Leaving everyone aghast at just how cold Fury can be. It's the kind of dark thing Whedon would enjoy, I suspect.

November 6 2012, 03:11 AM	#224
Tom Hendricks Muad'Dib Location: Syracuse, NY	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! So Coulson would die in each episode, I like it. __________________ You find the truth of yourself on the battlefield. Of course I'm a creationist. I believe man created god.

November 6 2012, 03:16 AM	#225
jbny67 Commander Location: NY - The Real Gotham	Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC! Oh my God.... They killed Coulson! You Bastards!