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Old November 5 2012, 04:58 AM   #211
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Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC!

Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived.
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Old November 5 2012, 05:11 AM   #212
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Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived.
Dude works on a floating aircraft carrier. "Real life" ain't exactly a factor here.

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Old November 5 2012, 05:26 AM   #213
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Doing what they did with Coulson reflects a real lack of vision.
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Old November 5 2012, 07:27 AM   #214
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The First Rule of Science Fiction:

If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.
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Old November 5 2012, 02:40 PM   #215
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Of course in real life an injuy like would've put Coulson into early retirement, so there's going to have to be a good explaination as do how he survived.
Dude works on a floating aircraft carrier. "Real life" ain't exactly a factor here.

Next question?
There are a lot of supposedly realistic shows and movies wherein the lead characters suffer serious injuries, often multiple times, and are able to recover fully and stay on the job with no loss of performance. So yeah, it'd be fanciful compared to real life, but within the range of accepted breaks from reality in fiction.
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Old November 5 2012, 10:08 PM   #216
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^ Jack Bauer 'died' twice in 24 and was back in action within an hour (in the series continuity), while Tony Almeida died in Season 5 and came back for season 7.

So for a show set in a world which features Norse Gods (sorry, aliens), super-serum-powered soldiers and gamma powered monsters, this shouldn't be a big deal.
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Old November 5 2012, 10:22 PM   #217
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Temis the Friendly Ghost wrote: View Post
The First Rule of Science Fiction:

If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.
But... but we saw Spock's body!
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Old November 5 2012, 10:24 PM   #218
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^ Jack Bauer 'died' twice in 24 and was back in action within an hour (in the series continuity), while Tony Almeida died in Season 5 and came back for season 7.
That's nothing: also on 24, Nadia went back and forth on her romantic feelings between Doyle and Milo no less than three times over the course of four hours on Day 6. I mean, I realize they only work in the CTU, but would it kill these people to concentrate on their jobs during a crisis situation?
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Old November 5 2012, 10:29 PM   #219
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^Not quite germane to the whole Coulson-back-from-the-dead thing though...
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Old November 5 2012, 10:30 PM   #220
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^Not quite germane to the whole Coulson-back-from-the-dead thing though...
Point taken.
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Old November 5 2012, 10:35 PM   #221
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The First Rule of Science Fiction:

If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead.
But... but we saw Spock's body!
Covered by the Second Rule of Science Fiction:

Even if you did see the body, they're still probably not really dead.
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Old November 5 2012, 10:42 PM   #222
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Third Rule:
If the actor is dead, they'll probably get recast when they're brought back to life.
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Old November 5 2012, 11:24 PM   #223
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My own notion for the Coulson controversy would be: Coulson comes back with no explanation. Everyone is confused, but knows better than to inquire too far into Fury's machinations if it's above their pay grade.

Then eventually it's revealed that Coulson is really a Life Model Decoy, and is treated basically as a disposable agent. Perhaps Coulson is the first prototype LMD, patterned after one of SHIELD's most successful agents. "Coulson" dies (is destroyed) repeatedly, as a kind of grim mockery of the real man who died on the helicarrier. Leaving everyone aghast at just how cold Fury can be.

It's the kind of dark thing Whedon would enjoy, I suspect.
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Old November 6 2012, 03:11 AM   #224
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So Coulson would die in each episode, I like it.
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Old November 6 2012, 03:16 AM   #225
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Oh my God.... They killed Coulson!
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