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View Poll Results: Rate The Persistence of Memory.
Outstanding 71 56.35%
Above Average 41 32.54%
Average 12 9.52%
Below Average 1 0.79%
Poor 1 0.79%
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Old November 4 2012, 05:11 PM   #196
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Picard was already a dinosaur when TNG started...
Uhh, no, Picard was only 59 in TNG's first season.
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Old November 4 2012, 05:12 PM   #197
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Why not? The Enterprise was there.
To keep the Typhon Pact out of the Gama Quadrant, since that's not a problem anymore...
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Old November 4 2012, 05:13 PM   #198
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Picard was already a dinosaur when TNG started...
Uhh, no, Picard was only 59 in TNG's first season.
Really I though he was 40 at the most.
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Old November 4 2012, 05:16 PM   #199
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Why not? The Enterprise was there.
To keep the Typhon Pact out of the Gama Quadrant, since that's not a problem anymore...
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Old November 4 2012, 05:17 PM   #200
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Picard was already a dinosaur when TNG started...
Uhh, no, Picard was only 59 in TNG's first season.
Really I though he was 40 at the most.
Wasn't Stewart only 48 when he took the role?
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Old November 4 2012, 05:37 PM   #201
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Why not? The Enterprise was there.
To keep the Typhon Pact out of the Gama Quadrant, since that's not a problem anymore...
Why?
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Old November 4 2012, 05:41 PM   #202
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To keep the Typhon Pact out of the Gama Quadrant, since that's not a problem anymore...
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Old November 4 2012, 05:52 PM   #203
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Old November 4 2012, 05:55 PM   #204
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Uhh, no, Picard was only 59 in TNG's first season.
Really I though he was 40 at the most.
You're forgetting the timing. He was captain of the Stargazer for 22 years, then TNG began 9 years later. The idea was that Picard was an accomplished, grand statesman who'd already had a legendary career, while Riker was his up-and-coming protege.

Patrick Stewart, on the other hand, was 47 when TNG began.
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Old November 4 2012, 05:57 PM   #205
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If they bring Choudhury back from the events of this novel, I'll start calling BS as there's nothing there to hint it's possible. No memory backup, no katra, no friendly Q after a travelling companion, no temporal shenanigans...
Don't worry. She's not a TV character. There won't be legions of fans asking "where's Choudhury?" or saying it doesn't feel like a TNG book without her. There's no pre-established audience with an interest in her to be prompted into buying books on the promise of a new Choudhury story.

I wouldn't worry about book-only characters returning from the dead; even someone like Vaughn, who was as important and notable as a book-only character can be, I can pretty much guarantee we won't be seeing again. It's the TV characters who are considered integral parts of the original shows who we can't be assured will stay in the grave.
I still don't think Vaughan is completely dead and gone...
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Old November 4 2012, 05:58 PM   #206
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If they bring Choudhury back from the events of this novel, I'll start calling BS as there's nothing there to hint it's possible. No memory backup, no katra, no friendly Q after a travelling companion, no temporal shenanigans...
Don't worry. She's not a TV character. There won't be legions of fans asking "where's Choudhury?" or saying it doesn't feel like a TNG book without her. There's no pre-established audience with an interest in her to be prompted into buying books on the promise of a new Choudhury story.

I wouldn't worry about book-only characters returning from the dead; even someone like Vaughn, who was as important and notable as a book-only character can be, I can pretty much guarantee we won't be seeing again. It's the TV characters who are considered integral parts of the original shows who we can't be assured will stay in the grave.
I still don't think Vaughan is completely dead and gone...
Even though they flat out said he died?
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Old November 4 2012, 06:06 PM   #207
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Don't worry. She's not a TV character. There won't be legions of fans asking "where's Choudhury?" or saying it doesn't feel like a TNG book without her. There's no pre-established audience with an interest in her to be prompted into buying books on the promise of a new Choudhury story.

I wouldn't worry about book-only characters returning from the dead; even someone like Vaughn, who was as important and notable as a book-only character can be, I can pretty much guarantee we won't be seeing again. It's the TV characters who are considered integral parts of the original shows who we can't be assured will stay in the grave.
I still don't think Vaughan is completely dead and gone...
Even though they flat out said he died?
Even though. There's no long term planning in the Litverse and who knows what some author further down the line will decide.

I didn't get anything from Vaughan's last appearance that would make his 'being with the Prophets' any less likely than Kira's.
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Old November 4 2012, 06:10 PM   #208
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If they bring Choudhury back from the events of this novel, I'll start calling BS as there's nothing there to hint it's possible. No memory backup, no katra, no friendly Q after a travelling companion, no temporal shenanigans...
Don't worry. She's not a TV character. There won't be legions of fans asking "where's Choudhury?" or saying it doesn't feel like a TNG book without her. There's no pre-established audience with an interest in her to be prompted into buying books on the promise of a new Choudhury story.

I wouldn't worry about book-only characters returning from the dead; even someone like Vaughn, who was as important and notable as a book-only character can be, I can pretty much guarantee we won't be seeing again. It's the TV characters who are considered integral parts of the original shows who we can't be assured will stay in the grave.
I still don't think Vaughan is completely dead and gone...
God, I hope not.
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Old November 4 2012, 06:17 PM   #209
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There he is! Still alive!
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Old November 4 2012, 06:22 PM   #210
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I didn't get anything from Vaughan's last appearance that would make his 'being with the Prophets' any less likely than Kira's.
Except for his lifeless corpse.
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