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Old November 3 2012, 07:07 PM   #196
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It was also a nice rite of passage for Ahsoka to guide a new group of young Jedi to their next step.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:07 PM   #197
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Uhh, so this is the Jedi way? Child endangerment? Ooh, how heroic.

And I couldn't watch a story about these Jedi "younglings" without being constantly aware of the fact that in a year or so, they're all going to be murdered by the nominal hero of this show. It kinda undermines any sense of accomplishment or victory.

On another subject, I had no idea that lightsaber crystals were so tiny. I had the impression they were bigger and rounder, more like lenses.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:15 PM   #198
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Uhh, so this is the Jedi way? Child endangerment? Ooh, how heroic.
This sink or swim approach is a necessary evil. The universe isn't a boys' choir and future Jedi need to grow up faster than other kids their age in order to survive.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:16 PM   #199
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I wonder if Yoda would have just left them in there, had they failed
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Old November 3 2012, 07:19 PM   #200
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On another subject, I had no idea that lightsaber crystals were so tiny. I had the impression they were bigger and rounder, more like lenses.
I figured they'd be colored differently.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:45 PM   #201
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On another subject, I had no idea that lightsaber crystals were so tiny. I had the impression they were bigger and rounder, more like lenses.
I figured they'd be colored differently.
Maybe they're all destined to produce blue or green lightsaber blades.
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Old November 3 2012, 08:36 PM   #202
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And I couldn't watch a story about these Jedi "younglings" without being constantly aware of the fact that in a year or so, they're all going to be murdered by the nominal hero of this show. It kinda undermines any sense of accomplishment or victory.
Welcome to the Clone Wars.
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Old November 3 2012, 10:32 PM   #203
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The smaller crystals could be because, they're younglings and using smaller lightsabers, which don't require as much power.
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Old November 3 2012, 11:44 PM   #204
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How small were they? The crystal in Luke's ROTJ saber turned out to be pretty small...
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And I couldn't watch a story about these Jedi "younglings" without being constantly aware of the fact that in a year or so, they're all going to be murdered by the nominal hero of this show. It kinda undermines any sense of accomplishment or victory.
There's a movie about this cute little kid who does all sorts of crazy stuff, ends up saving the day, and gets featured in games and toy lines made for 8 year old boys. He also happens to turn into a psychopathic space Hitler a few decades later. Or were you not aware of this?
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Old November 4 2012, 12:09 AM   #206
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^There's no need to be snide. Of course I'm "aware" of all that. But this is a story about small children whose murders are due to happen within the very near future. The Clone Wars only lasted three years, and given how much Ahsoka's matured over the course of the series, we've gotta be at least two years into it in episodes like this one. That means we're not talking about something decades in the future, but about something that's going to happen very soon... to children. That makes it rather harder to overlook than the usual cognitive dissonance of watching Anakin Skywalker be a hero.

Although a lot of it is just a sense of pointlessness. The story was about these children achieving a major step forward toward their future maturity. But we know they have no future. So any sense of accomplishment feels hollow.
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Old November 4 2012, 01:05 AM   #207
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But how do you know for sure that these particular younglings were even at the Jedi temple when Order 66 was given? How do you even know that Anakin slaughtered every single one of the Jedi that was in the temple at the time? We saw maybe a dozen younglings hiding in the Jedi council chamber... Where were the rest of them? There had to be much more, and it's possible, if not probable, that some of them actually managed to escape in time. Who knows, maybe most of them were taken to safety long before Anakin reached them, and those poor kids at the council chamber were just the unlucky ones?
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Old November 4 2012, 01:34 AM   #208
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How small were they?
Quite small.

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But how do you know for sure that these particular younglings were even at the Jedi temple when Order 66 was given? How do you even know that Anakin slaughtered every single one of the Jedi that was in the temple at the time? We saw maybe a dozen younglings hiding in the Jedi council chamber... Where were the rest of them? There had to be much more, and it's possible, if not probable, that some of them actually managed to escape in time. Who knows, maybe most of them were taken to safety long before Anakin reached them, and those poor kids at the council chamber were just the unlucky ones?
Isn't the official word that only Obi-Wan and Yoda survived the massacre of the Jedi? I think it's safe to assume these characters didn't survive any more than the adult Jedi.
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Old November 4 2012, 05:56 AM   #210
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Depends on stuff like the EU, which featured the occasional survivors of Order 66. The Conclave on Kessel tried (and failed) to kill Vader with an ambush, and Empatojayos Brand survived the purge with grievous wounds and was still alive after the Emperor's death at Endor.

I don't watch CW, so I have no clue if there's any official word in there to the effect that only Kenobi and Yoda survived. Going only by the movies, one could assume that since they're the only key Jedi shown afterwards, but a lot of the tie-in material suggests there were others.
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