Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

[Mott the barber]

trekker670 wrote:

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Agreed, I think everyone will agree that the VAM in Season 2 is amazing, probably the best of any Trek released yet. I think the "letdown" many people are expressing is that these other extras were really hyped up and expected to be revolutionary, but IMO deleted scenes and bloopers are a routine (even expected) addition to most DVD/Bluray releases.

That said, I'm hyped about S2 and December can't get here soon enough!

I get what you guys are saying. I guess what I mean is, to me, and considering how long ago this season was, the fact they got 13 never before seen minutes, is amazing. I just don't know what more people were realistically expecting. 3D?

[Maxwell Everett]

bullethead wrote:

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I want to preorder this so bad, but my PC might not be able to play thanks to encryption nonsense.

Did your S1 discs play? They have new encryption keys too. S2 will likely have the same ones.

[bullethead]

Maxwell Everett wrote:

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Did your S1 discs play? They have new encryption keys too. S2 will likely have the same ones.

I never got S1. I held off because of the audio glitches and because S1's episode lineup wasn't all that great, so I have no idea if it works with the latest AACS decrypter that VLC uses.

[LOKAI of CHERON]

bullethead wrote:

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I never got S1. I held off because of the audio glitches and because S1's episode lineup wasn't all that great, so I have no idea if it works with the latest AACS decrypter that VLC uses.

Get yourself a program called AnyDVD HD and you'll be good to go with any disc!

[Maxwell Everett]

bullethead wrote:

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I never got S1. I held off because of the audio glitches and because S1's episode lineup wasn't all that great, so I have no idea if it works with the latest AACS decrypter that VLC uses.

Unfortunately, the S1 discs don't play even with the latest version of VLC, so you'd have to try another software player, or decrypt the discs first... or find an inexpensive Blu-ray player.

If you have a jailbroken PS3, the latest custom firmware that's out now (4.30) has the current AACS keys. When I first got the S1 set, I couldn't play the discs and had to use my $50 Panasonic player I got last December.

[Scotty]

trekker670 wrote:

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I think the "letdown" many people are expressing is that these other extras were really hyped up and expected to be revolutionary, but IMO deleted scenes and bloopers are a routine (even expected) addition to most DVD/Bluray releases.

For crying out loud! Absolutely no-one implied that the extras would be revolutionary. If anyone is disappointed with these extra features they're just bloody ingrates IMO. For one we get deleted scenes, pretty much a first for Trek shows, if you disregard Ent. We're getting a totally remastered EXTENDED frigging version of Measure of a Man and audio commentaries. And let's not forget that all episodes have been remastered from 35 mm. What the hell more do you want?

[Patrick O'Brien]

Amazon lowered the price to $79.99, so I finally pre-ordered it

[RAMA]

These extras are the greatest ever....I caught a glimpse of the new theatrical event trailer and the split second of Q Who borg interior footage impressed me! I just pre-ordered it after the price came down!!

[mswood]

Yeah I paused up on that. Not the greatest matte ever (at least by what we could see), but still for the time, and for what it was trying to show us, it was very impressive for a weekly tv series.

[Maxwell Everett]

Nice healthy amount of grain in that new footage. I like it. Looks just like S1. Certain shots in the S2 trailer on the S1 set were quite heavily DNR'd:

[MickJo1701]

Maxwell Everett wrote:

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Nice healthy amount of grain in that new footage. I like it. Looks just like S1. Certain shots in the S2 trailer on the S1 set were quite heavily DNR'd:

That looks infinitely better without a DNR scrub, any ideas why they it was done for the shots in the trailer?

[Maxwell Everett]

MickJo1701 wrote:

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That looks infinitely better without a DNR scrub, any ideas why they it was done for the shots in the trailer?

Probably to make the shots look more consistent for the trailer and the file size smaller... or possibly to make it look artificially "cleaner" for a mass audience normally put off by grainy images -- even if that's the way the film stock is supposed to look from that era.

[MickJo1701]

Maxwell Everett wrote:

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Probably to make the shots look more consistent for the trailer and the file size smaller... or possibly to make it look artificially "cleaner" for a mass audience normally put off by grainy images -- even if that's the way the film stock is supposed to look from that era.

That's a relief, I always wondered why the 'quick fire' shots at the end of the trailer had their film grain intact but the shots of Q Who and Contagion made Picard et all look as if they were made of rubber

[FrontierTrek]

Yes folks, please don't put too much stock in the image quality from the trailers - As Maxwell Everett points out, they sometimes apply DNR or adjust contrast/brightness/brilliance to fit the "mood" of the trailer. And sometimes they use temporary shots if a particular FX shot is not yet ready!

[MickJo1701]

mswood wrote:

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Yeah I paused up on that. Not the greatest matte ever (at least by what we could see), but still for the time, and for what it was trying to show us, it was very impressive for a weekly tv series.

Just looking at this new matte, its definitely been CGI enhanced and an improvement over the original. I cant really make it out very well I think there are some first contact style alcoves in there, the telltale is the green plasma disks. Can anyone one see them?