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View Poll Results: So which of the Captain's would you want to serve under?
TOS: Captain James Tiberius Kirk 14 21.54%
TNG: Captain Jean-Luc Picard 24 36.92%
DS9: Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko 18 27.69%
VOY: Captain Kathryn Janeway 5 7.69%
ENT: Captain Jonathan Archer 3 4.62%
STXI: Captain James Tiberius Kirk AKA Kirk 2.0 1 1.54%
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Old November 3 2012, 12:15 PM   #16
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^ He may be arguably approachable (though, I'd count other captains as approachable as well), but he's not the most competent. So, you might get his "help," but it might not actually be help, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got no problems with anyone picking Archer. It's a personal choice.

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It would be silly to pick a younger one though, just because the older one would have more experience and you might have less chance of dying.
Well, at least we know when the old one dies, so that's a plus on his side if you started out with TOS Kirk.
Oh yeah, everyone would be in terror as the self destruct sequence counted down on the Enterprise and you'd be sitting there thinking, nope not gonna die today.
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It has to be Sisko. Picard is a close second mind you.
Same here. Picard is a very close second for me. After that, I'd choose original Kirk.
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Old November 3 2012, 01:18 PM   #17
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^ He may be arguably approachable (though, I'd count other captains as approachable as well), but he's not the most competent. So, you might get his "help," but it might not actually be help, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got no problems with anyone picking Archer. It's a personal choice.

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Well, at least we know when the old one dies, so that's a plus on his side if you started out with TOS Kirk.
Oh yeah, everyone would be in terror as the self destruct sequence counted down on the Enterprise and you'd be sitting there thinking, nope not gonna die today.
True.
Except.. maybe Kirk got beamed out at the last second by alien benefactors and you went kaboom.
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Old November 3 2012, 01:30 PM   #18
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Sisko for me, coolest man in all the galaxy, probably with Picard second.

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Old November 3 2012, 03:41 PM   #19
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Picard-he's the least impulsive and most likely to keep his crew safe.
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Old November 3 2012, 06:29 PM   #20
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^ It's true that Picard is the least impulsive, but that also means that he's the most deliberate out of the bunch. So, situations that don't require a lot of quick decision making are ideal for him. That doesn't mean that he can't make quick decisions, just like Sisko and Kirk being better at it doesn't mean that they couldn't and didn't deliberate over things that required deliberation.

Each one of the three has something special about them that the others don't have or don't have so much, and conversely each one of the three doesn't have something as much as the other one or two.

Picard is the natural diplomat out of the bunch. So, he likes to sit down and get comforable and talk. He wants his counterparts to be comfortable for talking too, because I think he usually expects the conversations/negotiations to take some time. This is where he shines, I think, the most because that's what diplomats do. Plus, you know you'll get to have tea with cream and sugar lumps, and maybe even some cookies too. None of the other captains do that. Picard is ideal for diplomatic missions.

Sisko is the natural "get it done" guy. He's the one you want if you've got a lot of things happening all at once, and they are happening fast, and you need results. He had a space station to rebuild and then run, a people to be an Emissary to, wormhole aliens to deal with, The Dominion war and all that that entailed, plus a son to raise on top of it. He's more or less like, "I've got a schedule to keep, so this is what I/we can do for you, now what can you do for me/us?" Sisko is ideal for when the $%#! is hitting the fan.

And Kirk (and all of this is my opinion of course) is the smooth snake charmer. I think out of all of the captains, he's best at manipulating things/people to get a certain outcome (when possible). Kirk is ideal when you need someone that is good at "maneuvering."

I think all 3 are pretty equal at keeping their crews safe, but that's just me.

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^ He may be arguably approachable (though, I'd count other captains as approachable as well), but he's not the most competent. So, you might get his "help," but it might not actually be help, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got no problems with anyone picking Archer. It's a personal choice.

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Oh yeah, everyone would be in terror as the self destruct sequence counted down on the Enterprise and you'd be sitting there thinking, nope not gonna die today.
True.
Except.. maybe Kirk got beamed out at the last second by alien benefactors and you went kaboom.
Oh, I don't think Kirk is that sleazy. The captain is responsible for his/her crew, and to give the crew the slip to save himself would be... Well, he's not that sleazy. I think he would put the crew first.
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Old November 3 2012, 06:52 PM   #21
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Picard, definitely. But Sisko wouldn't be too bad either.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:00 PM   #22
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Re: Which Captain would you want to serve under?

I'd have to say Picard. Out of all of them, he is the least likely to throw away the lives of subordinates on some fool's errand. I would trust him more than any other of those captains, not to get me killed.

The *least* likely for me to serve with? NuKirk. I realize he's young, but he's also an immature jackass (i.e. the bar fight) who jumped in rank from Lieutenant to Captain without deserving it. No way would I ever serve under his command.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:15 PM   #23
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Kirk, he at least has fun at his job.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:26 PM   #24
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^ That's the problem.
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Old November 3 2012, 07:46 PM   #25
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Kirk - too much if a cowboy, would probably get me killed

Picard - too much of an old granny, and that also has its dangers, sometimes you gotta roll the hard six

Sisko - an ass kicker when he needs to be, but also capable of taking a wait and see or even sneaky and underhanded approach

Janeway - too bipolar, which Janeway is she today?

Archer - how did he even get to be a captain?!?

NuKirk - still under development as a character, ask me again next summer

Winner: Sisko
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Old November 3 2012, 08:21 PM   #26
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^ He may be arguably approachable (though, I'd count other captains as approachable as well), but he's not the most competent. So, you might get his "help," but it might not actually be help, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got no problems with anyone picking Archer. It's a personal choice.
Actually, I think by Season Four Archer was a much more competent captain and a strong leader. I wouldn't be as hesitant to trust my life to that Archer as much as I would the Archer of the early episodes.
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Old November 3 2012, 10:33 PM   #27
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Kirk, he at least has fun at his job.

why is this a plus if you're a subordinate under him? The question is "who would you want to serve under," not "most fun to watch."


Kirk is fun to watch, but he's also way too casual about danger and risk, and if you're a junior ensign, he's NOT the captain you want to serve under.
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Old November 3 2012, 10:39 PM   #28
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^ He may be arguably approachable (though, I'd count other captains as approachable as well), but he's not the most competent. So, you might get his "help," but it might not actually be help, if you know what I mean. Still, I've got no problems with anyone picking Archer. It's a personal choice.



True.
Except.. maybe Kirk got beamed out at the last second by alien benefactors and you went kaboom.
Oh, I don't think Kirk is that sleazy. The captain is responsible for his/her crew, and to give the crew the slip to save himself would be... Well, he's not that sleazy. I think he would put the crew first.
Of course I mean beamed out against his will.
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Old November 3 2012, 11:56 PM   #29
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Kirk, he at least has fun at his job.

why is this a plus if you're a subordinate under him? The question is "who would you want to serve under," not "most fun to watch."


Kirk is fun to watch, but he's also way too casual about danger and risk, and if you're a junior ensign, he's NOT the captain you want to serve under.
And if Kirk is in charge if I'm up shit creek, he'll do something while Picard has a staffmeeting about it or would go ahab on it and use me as canon fodder, Archer will get beaten up in the rescue attempt, Sisko will either launch a rescue or leave me reliant on an enemy's heel face turn unless he's on a quest for the prophets then he might let me die, and Janeway only cares about her precious senior staff so I'd be screwed.

The jury is still out on NuKirk

As for danger If your in Starfleet you signed up for it. At least in TOS the danger would come from. Fun adventure that everyone was enjoying for the most part rather than being grim and serious all the freaking time while occasionally boring me with the holier than thou speeches about how perfect humanity is.

Besides Redshirts mostly die from doing stupid stuff, so I like my chances there.
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Old November 4 2012, 01:29 AM   #30
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I can't say that I ever saw a TOS episode that looked fun or like the crew was having fun, but then I haven't seen them all... Sisko never left a crew member behind. Proof? By the end of the series, his crew was safe and sound. The only one that died was Jadzia, and that was on the station by the hands of a possessed Gul Dukat, not because she was kidnapped and Sisko failed to launch a rescue attempt or because of poor security (DS9 had the best security chief in Odo out of them all). The Sisko wouldn't do that.

No matter though, like I said, each one of my top 3 has something special about them, and none would just leave a crew member behind.

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