Jimmy Savile - Page 7

Starkers · October 30 2012, 04:07 PM

Hmm, seemed more like people suspected there was something fishy about him but lacked evidence to do anything about it, so just kept him away from their particular area. If anything the beaurocracy of the BBC helped Savile cos various areas weren't talking to each other about it, or at least that's how it seemed.

But then the police are guilty, if that's the right word, of something similar. Some chief constable has said that if three constabularies who'd had complaints made about Savile had known about each other, it would have highlighted a pattern of abuse.

I just dislike how the Beeb is taking all the flack over this given the police and NHS seem equally culpable.

Haggis and tatties · October 30 2012, 05:37 PM

I have no doubt the NHS and police will be next in line, the tabliods like to spin these things out so once they are done with the BBC the police and NHS will be next.

Drago-Kazov · November 1 2012, 10:16 AM

After the Murdoch hacking scandal nothing would suprise me when it comes to the british police.

Starkers · November 2 2012, 09:59 AM

Freddie Starr now taken in for question before being bailed.

They'll be after Orville soon

Bob The Skutter · November 2 2012, 10:04 AM

Maybe they were being euphemistic when the papers printed "Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster"?

There seems to be an odd thing going on where people are secretly wishing there's going to be loads more of this that will seep out of the wood work, while at the same time going on about how horrible and disgusting it is.

Deckerd · November 2 2012, 10:08 AM

The Germans have a good word for it, Pooh.

Bob The Skutter · November 2 2012, 10:14 AM

Maybe I should learn German then. Guess I should be brushing up on my rubbish French too.

Starkers · November 2 2012, 10:18 AM

I wonder if there is more to come out to be honest. Given that Starr only seems to have one accusation against him, that he groped a 14 yr old girl, the police seem to be making a bit of a meal of it. Not that for one minute I'm condoning what he did if it's true, but compared to what Savile was up to it seems very small scale. Of course maybe they've had further complaints against him since the first one came out.

Have to say seeing him sitting next to his finance who's half his age he did look a mite creepy!

JoeZhang · November 2 2012, 11:44 AM

The problem is who can tell after this period of time? There are going to a lot of cranks mixed in with genuine cases - I'd envy the police trying to work out which is which decades later.

Starkers · November 2 2012, 01:32 PM

Yeah its gonna be a hell of a mess!

Haggis and tatties · November 2 2012, 03:38 PM

JoeZhang wrote:

The problem is who can tell after this period of time? There are going to a lot of cranks mixed in with genuine cases - I'd envy the police trying to work out which is which decades later.

Double that now Savile estate worth 4 million has been seized.

Starkers · November 2 2012, 03:54 PM

Yeah some people will start to sniff money...though as I said up thread (I think) some people will just be seeking attention.

hopefully the genuine victims will get some kind of closure

Deckerd · November 2 2012, 04:23 PM

Horror and Terror wrote:

JoeZhang wrote:

The problem is who can tell after this period of time? There are going to a lot of cranks mixed in with genuine cases - I'd envy the police trying to work out which is which decades later.

Double that now Savile estate worth 4 million has been seized.

Well the BBC said £2m and they said the executors had frozen the dispersal of assets at the request of the family. This is hardly 'seized'. I strongly suspect that if the family had not been bothered the estate would have been doled out with absolutely no legal requirement to withhold any of it. You can't try a dead man and you can't force anyone else to pay for his crimes. His family have acted honourably throughout this and are without blame.

Haggis and tatties · November 2 2012, 04:51 PM

Frau Blucher wrote:

Horror and Terror wrote:

JoeZhang wrote:

The problem is who can tell after this period of time? There are going to a lot of cranks mixed in with genuine cases - I'd envy the police trying to work out which is which decades later.

Double that now Savile estate worth 4 million has been seized.

Well the BBC said £2m and they said the executors had frozen the dispersal of assets at the request of the family. This is hardly 'seized'. I strongly suspect that if the family had not been bothered the estate would have been doled out with absolutely no legal requirement to withhold any of it. You can't try a dead man and you can't force anyone else to pay for his crimes. His family have acted honourably throughout this and are without blame.

I am sure nobody said his family were to blame...people are just pointing out what's happening.

Haggis and tatties · November 2 2012, 04:57 PM

Judge Death wrote:

Yeah some people will start to sniff money...though as I said up thread (I think) some people will just be seeking attention.

hopefully the genuine victims will get some kind of closure

I hope so.

October 30 2012, 04:07 PM	#91
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Jimmy Savile Hmm, seemed more like people suspected there was something fishy about him but lacked evidence to do anything about it, so just kept him away from their particular area. If anything the beaurocracy of the BBC helped Savile cos various areas weren't talking to each other about it, or at least that's how it seemed. But then the police are guilty, if that's the right word, of something similar. Some chief constable has said that if three constabularies who'd had complaints made about Savile had known about each other, it would have highlighted a pattern of abuse. I just dislike how the Beeb is taking all the flack over this given the police and NHS seem equally culpable. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

October 30 2012, 05:37 PM	#92
Haggis and tatties Rear Admiral Location: Glasgow	Re: Jimmy Savile I have no doubt the NHS and police will be next in line, the tabliods like to spin these things out so once they are done with the BBC the police and NHS will be next. __________________

November 1 2012, 10:16 AM	#93
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: Jimmy Savile After the Murdoch hacking scandal nothing would suprise me when it comes to the british police.

November 2 2012, 09:59 AM	#94
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Jimmy Savile Freddie Starr now taken in for question before being bailed. They'll be after Orville soon __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 2 2012, 10:04 AM	#95
Bob The Skutter Admiral Location: Bob The Skutter	Re: Jimmy Savile Maybe they were being euphemistic when the papers printed "Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster"? There seems to be an odd thing going on where people are secretly wishing there's going to be loads more of this that will seep out of the wood work, while at the same time going on about how horrible and disgusting it is. __________________ It's all right, children. Life is made up of meetings and partings. That is the way of it. I am sure that we shall never forget Tiny Tim, or this first parting that there was among us.

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November 2 2012, 10:08 AM	#96
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: Jimmy Savile The Germans have a good word for it, Pooh. __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.

November 2 2012, 10:14 AM	#97
Bob The Skutter Admiral Location: Bob The Skutter	Re: Jimmy Savile Maybe I should learn German then. Guess I should be brushing up on my rubbish French too. __________________ It's all right, children. Life is made up of meetings and partings. That is the way of it. I am sure that we shall never forget Tiny Tim, or this first parting that there was among us.

November 2 2012, 10:18 AM	#98
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Jimmy Savile I wonder if there is more to come out to be honest. Given that Starr only seems to have one accusation against him, that he groped a 14 yr old girl, the police seem to be making a bit of a meal of it. Not that for one minute I'm condoning what he did if it's true, but compared to what Savile was up to it seems very small scale. Of course maybe they've had further complaints against him since the first one came out. Have to say seeing him sitting next to his finance who's half his age he did look a mite creepy! __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 2 2012, 11:44 AM	#99
JoeZhang Rear Admiral	Re: Jimmy Savile The problem is who can tell after this period of time? There are going to a lot of cranks mixed in with genuine cases - I'd envy the police trying to work out which is which decades later.

November 2 2012, 01:32 PM	#100
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Jimmy Savile Yeah its gonna be a hell of a mess! __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 2 2012, 03:54 PM	#102
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: Jimmy Savile Yeah some people will start to sniff money...though as I said up thread (I think) some people will just be seeking attention. hopefully the genuine victims will get some kind of closure __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street