Stargate SG-1 - First time viewing of whole series

[The Wormhole]

Captain Craig wrote:

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The little in joke with O'Neill asking if the "television like" device could pick up Showtime was not lost on me. Speaking of did fans know if there was going to be a season 2 when this cliffhanger season ended?

Although they kept that line for the DVD, whenever the episode airs on a channel other than Showtime, they have an alternate line with O'Neill saying "Mmmm, Goa'uld TV."

[teacake]

From: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Withi...pent%27s_Grasp


"This episode contains the only scene produced especially for Showtime, not shown on the syndicated versions, but included in the DVD release. When seeing a floating metal ball, Teal'c explains "It is a Goa'uld long-range visual communication device, somewhat like your television, only much further advanced." In the Showtime version, O'Neill says "Think it gets Showtime?" In the other versions, Colonel Jack O'Neill says "Mmm... Goa'uld TV." Since Richard Dean Anderson is a fan of The Simpsons, the latter is one of many such in-jokes. "

[gturner]

I never knew that.

After it left Showtime they toned down some of the racier scenes it had, most obvious in the first few episode. As I recall, the premier had frontal nudity, and the Mongol warrior episode had Sam getting pretty close to becoming a sex slave.

[teacake]

I was at the nudity, full frontal indeed. Also some gore.

[The Wormhole]

No one involved with the show actually wanted to have nudity there, that was forced upon them by Showtime. But aside from that, there isn't that much in the Showtime years that's inapporpriate. Maybe some swearing. At least I assume in one episode where O'Neill describes Apophis as a "mother [brief silence] Goa'uld" there's supposed to be something in the brief silence and that O'Neill wasn't really calling Apophis a mother Goa'uld.

[teacake]

The nudity was the peak of envelope pushing so far

[gturner]

The Wormhole wrote:

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No one involved with the show actually wanted to have nudity there, that was forced upon them by Showtime. But aside from that, there isn't that much in the Showtime years that's inapporpriate. Maybe some swearing. At least I assume in one episode where O'Neill describes Apophis as a "mother [brief silence] Goa'uld" there's supposed to be something in the brief silence and that O'Neill wasn't really calling Apophis a mother Goa'uld.

If HBO or a few others did the show these days, our typical thread title would be "SG-1 visits ANOTHER planet full of nekkid women - get's nekkid."

Yeah "Spartacus", I'm lookin' at you, among others!

[Captain Craig]

2x1-The Serpent's Lair: Good follow-up to the cliffhanger I thought. Wasn't sure how soon we'd see Bretac again. He was one nugget of knowledge I had coming in that I would see again. The cockiness and arrogance here on display that a few nukes should take them out again had me thinking Independence Day. Jackson uses a sarcophagus to recover from a shoulder wound taken earlier but the C-4 timers are ticking at the under an hour mark. I don't think it's been established that I've noticed but it's always seemed that the healing process in those takes time. I'm going with the idea that the more severe the injury the longer it takes. Is an "in universe" explanation ever given?

2x2-In the Line of Duty: So Carter is now infected by a Goa'uld but the twist is that it's essentially a rebel. I can't recall the name that was given for the "rebel alliance" of Goa'uld off hand but it seems likely this could be key later on. Just as some Jaffa are defecting so are some Goa'uld from their idea of Universal dominance and enslavement. I'm I reading too much in to think a type of Union vs Confederacy analogy is developing here? I just want it to play out better than using vamps and Abraham Lincoln.

2x3-Prisoners: Interesting episode in that it seems our team has unleashed a threat to many worlds. I think Linea was called "the Destroyer"? The one flaw of logic I had was how she seemingly was allowed access to so much at SG Command. Her use of the coordinates for other worlds could prove quite bad, especially if she makes good on more biological attacks and a connection is made between Earth and her escape. This feels like an episode we will re-vist later. I also think this is the first time it's been shown how standing in front of the Gate when the Event Horizon forms is deadly. The smoking shoes was quite a sight. At least I don't recall this being mentioned before.

2x4-The Gamekeeper: Ah, Dwight Schultz as the Keeper on a planet that had at some time in it's past had an environmental bio/chem war that devastated the planet. The survivors created these devices that allowed them to survive similar to a cryo sleep was my guess. Meanwhile the planet has healed but the Keeper doesn't want his audience to know they can "wake up". He fears they will just destroy the world all over again. His fear reminded me in a nutshell of the axiom from nuBSG, "All of this has happened before and all of it shall happen again".


Good start to S2 imo. I split it up over the weekend and watched 2 eps Sat morning and two Sun afternoon cause the Titans game was not worth watching. If I hadn't had such a backlog of series on DVD to watch and 10 seasons wasn't an intimidating task I wish I had started on this sooner. I sat on this for awhile as I got through material with fewer seasons.

[teacake]

Captain Craig wrote:

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Good start to S2 imo. I split it up over the weekend and watched 2 eps Sat morning and two Sun afternoon cause the Titans game was not worth watching. If I hadn't had such a backlog of series on DVD to watch and 10 seasons wasn't an intimidating task I wish I had started on this sooner. I sat on this for awhile as I got through material with fewer seasons.

I'm pretty thrilled to have so much of a series I am thoroughly enjoying ahead of me. I don't know if we'll ever get ten seasons of one sci fi show again

[lurok]

^ Highly unlikely

[Captain Craig]

2x5-Need: Interesting take here the native inhabitants beat the Gou'ald and to keep up appearances the leader of the revolt keeps the people enslaved for their "own good". He then mines the ore and keeps sending it through the gate. It's revealed that the healing power of the Sarcophagus when used on an already healthy individual has side affects, not to unlike addiction. Didn't see that twist coming as a story point. Since Hammond and SG command seemed to agree to help those enslaved and show them how to mine the ore this might be a world worth revisiting?

2x6-Thor's Chariot: This episode officially marks that things are moving faster than I had thought. Having not watched the show my thinking was that "gray Thor" was a product of the show when it went to the Sci-Fi channel. When in season 1 we had the episode Thor's Hammer that was the "groundwork" likely used by Sci-Fi to bring more "sci-fi" elements into the show. Apparently not, this episode clearly shows otherwise. I thought this was going to be a few seasons of mainly visiting worlds that just featured displaced Eath civilzations and how they still function according to the old or deviated from what we know. Almost a default Sliders if you will. While we've gotten some of that we've seen a few more non-human aliens than I thought. Thor's Chariot--no wonder the Gou'ald are fearful of the Asgardians. With a ship like that how is there even a war? I'm guessing then that the Gou'ald have plundered more powerful weapons? Something to make them a worthy threat for the title of war. Is it fair to say that since the Gou'ald are scavenger/warriors they have an overtone of the Borg. They assimilate technology and enslave those they encounter.

Great episode. Has me looking forward to more, especially as it pertains to the Asgardians but also that more avenues of interest will open up.

[MacLeod]

teacock wrote:

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From: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Withi...pent%27s_Grasp


"This episode contains the only scene produced especially for Showtime, not shown on the syndicated versions, but included in the DVD release. When seeing a floating metal ball, Teal'c explains "It is a Goa'uld long-range visual communication device, somewhat like your television, only much further advanced." In the Showtime version, O'Neill says "Think it gets Showtime?" In the other versions, Colonel Jack O'Neill says "Mmm... Goa'uld TV." Since Richard Dean Anderson is a fan of The Simpsons, the latter is one of many such in-jokes. "

I'm fairly sure that line about showtime was included why Sky aired it in the UK.

[Captain Craig]

2x7-Message in a Bottle: Probably the first episode I didn't find much to like. Probably doesn't hurt it comes after Thor's Chariot so the pendulum swing seemed greater imo. Felt like bottle show too much.

2x8-Family: Another return to Teal'c's family. This time with his son Rya'c being under Apophosis control. It seems Rya'c is fully brainwashed at this point. Shooting your child in order to try and rid him of a Jaffa is an emotional moment. Teal'c having a family moment was great to see since he's always so stoic. I doubt for some reason Rya'c is fully cured though. It seemed too easy the way it was done.

2x9-Secrets: Felt like a bottle show as well but this one actually injected a new sub plot into things. A traitor or leak is out there giving details to a media source about the Stargate program. Jack and Sam are going to be presented with awards by the President and I kept hoping for a Clintonian type actor to play as President but the story took us elsewhere. Carter's dad has cancer and I'm guessing that storyline is revisited down the line. Also this episode kinda carries over the "family" theme cause Jackson and Teal'c return to Abydos where it's revealed Sharay is pregnant and her Gou'ald has "gone to sleep" to allow for a healthy birth. I won't recap more but I am curious to find out how Sharay's story moves forward and if they find out who killed the reporter that had the Stargate info.

[gturner]

It seems Rya'c is fully brainwashed at this point. Shooting your child in order to try and rid him of a Jaffa is an emotional moment.

Well, they could've had Dr. Frasier do electro-shock therapy in a controlled environment, but as an alien carrying a larval Goa'uld symbiote, Tea'lc can't get health insurance because he's got a pre-existing condition, and his family just arrived and hadn't needed coverage yet. The health plan Tea'lc had under Aphophis expired 30 days after he turned sho'va, and of course as a cost-cutting measure the Goa'uld had convinced the jaffa that it's better to die in battle than become disabled.

So Tea'lc had to use a zat, only one step away from cauterizing a wound with a staff blast because he can't afford Neosporin.

Anyway, "Secrets" was a good episode, and I believe it marks the first appearance of Michael Shanks' daugher in the series, appearing as a fetus. Mom is the actresss playing Sha're. Does IMDB credit that?

When you say you expected a "Clintonian type actor" to play the President, I hope it doesn't refer to actors who grope their co-stars.

The series does feature quite a few real Washington folks, including General John Jumper, Secretary of the Air Force, and perhaps another Secretary of the Air Force, sometimes in key scenes set in the SGC or the Oval Office.

Back in the 1960's Ernest Borgnine was called to Washington by the Secretary of the Navy, and he says he was nervous as could be because he had no idea what it was about. The Secretary told him that about 30% of new recruits were looking to join McHale's Navy, and this his show was having a tremendous impact. I think Stargate SG-1 had the same effect.

[The Wormhole]

gturner wrote:

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[The series does feature quite a few real Washington folks, including General John Jumper, Secretary of the Air Force, and perhaps another Secretary of the Air Force, sometimes in key scenes set in the SGC or the Oval Office.

John Jumper and his predecessor Michael Ryan were actually the US Air Force Chief of Staff when they had their appearances on SG-1. Secretary of the Air Force is a different job.