Has JJ Abrams ever watched any star trek episodes or movie?s

[Greg Cox]

Let's be honest here. The only reason Star Trek is still a going concern is because of the success of Star Wars back in 1977. Thats what convinced Paramount to finally give Trek a second chance after it was cancelled back in the sixties. So Trekkies should be thankful for Star Wars and its popularity. If not for Star Wars, we'd still be watching nothing but TOS reruns (and, okay, the cartoon series).

And, no, they're not sports teams. You don't have to root for one over the other.

[Harvey]

I'm not sure that an absence of Star Wars (and Close Encounters of the Third Kind) would have meant a complete lack of Star Trek in the late 70s. What those films did was convince Paramount to back a major motion picture version of the series. If they hadn't have existed, I think a series of telemovies (which were seriously considered as the studio went back and forth between some sort of television presentation and some sort of movie) would have been a possibility.

A bit of a hypothetical tangent, though.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

It's my understanding that Paramount went from planned quarterly TV-movies (the first of which was called Planet of the Titans) to the Star Trek: Phase II TV series which would have been the flagship show of a new Paramount network, to retooling the Phase II pilot episode "In Thy Image" into a feature film after the success of Star Wars.

Star Wars is why we have movies. And snazzy warp-jump effects.

[Drago-Kazov]

Is he watching DS 9 now that Kirk will go Into Darkness?

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

Erm.... why DS9?

[Drago-Kazov]

Because that is the darkest Trek ever created.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

I disagree. Enterprise's third season goes far darker than anything DS9 did. Earth is attacked, killing millions, Archer tortures an alien in an airlock, has a clone of his engineer made to harvest his organs, bombs an unarmed Xindi outpost from orbit, loses a third of this crew when the ship is nearly destroyed, T'Pol becomes an addict, Hoshi is captured, tortured and attempts suicide...

[BillJ]

KingDaniel wrote:

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I disagree. Enterprise's third season goes far darker than anything DS9 did. Earth is attacked, killing millions, Archer tortures an alien in an airlock, has a clone of his engineer made to harvest his organs, bombs an unarmed Xindi outpost from orbit, loses a third of this crew when the ship is nearly destroyed, T'Pol becomes an addict, Hoshi is captured, tortured and attempts suicide...

I still think TOS was the darkest of the Trek series.

[teacake]

KingDaniel wrote:

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I disagree. Enterprise's third season goes far darker than anything DS9 did. Earth is attacked, killing millions, Archer tortures an alien in an airlock, has a clone of his engineer made to harvest his organs, bombs an unarmed Xindi outpost from orbit, loses a third of this crew when the ship is nearly destroyed, T'Pol becomes an addict, Hoshi is captured, tortured and attempts suicide...

And Riker is a guest star.

Also, piracy.

[Sindatur]

KingDaniel wrote:

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I disagree. Enterprise's third season goes far darker than anything DS9 did. Earth is attacked, killing millions, Archer tortures an alien in an airlock, has a clone of his engineer made to harvest his organs, bombs an unarmed Xindi outpost from orbit, loses a third of this crew when the ship is nearly destroyed, T'Pol becomes an addict, Hoshi is captured, tortured and attempts suicide...

Boards a peaceful ship, steals their Warp Drive at gun point and leaves them stranded

[Drago-Kazov]

I had not watched the whole ENT.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

...and now we've spoiled it for you.

Sorry.

[Drago-Kazov]

I don't care.

[Therin of Andor]

teacock wrote:

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And Riker is a guest star.

In the third season?

[teacake]

I'm pretty sure KingDaniel knew what I meant. And I'm pretty sure you know I know what episode he appeared in.