One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Trek

Photon · October 30 2012, 10:17 PM

Is: they fewer junk, throwaway episodes. Voyager had a few good ones, TNG had many like DS9. Still, the former had many, many, many very forgettable and dare I say many terrible episodes.

Seriously, I can count on 1 hand DS9's junk eps. I would need more phalanges to get Voyager and TNG (and TOS)

Dukhat · October 30 2012, 10:25 PM

Photon wrote:

Is: they fewer junk, throwaway episodes. Voyager had a few good ones, TNG had many like DS9. Still, the former had many, many, many very forgettable and dare I say many terrible episodes.

Seriously, I can count on 1 hand DS9's junk eps. I would need more phalanges to get Voyager and TNG (and TOS)

While I love DS9, I can count rather more junk episodes than that, mostly in the final season, between horrid shit like "Take Me Out to the Holosuite," and pretty much every episode involving Ezri Dax.

TheRoyalFamily · October 31 2012, 04:57 AM

Ezri Dax is Best Dax.

I'm with you on "Take Me Out To the Holosuite," though. Maybe would have worked before the Dominion War, but not during. Also, baseball has no place.

Spock/Uhura Fan · October 31 2012, 07:14 AM

I don't find that there are very many episodes that I'd consider junk. Take Me Out To The Holosuite wasn't DS9's best, but it was an okay episode. The one I liked the least from season 7 was the Badda Bang Badda Boom ep, or whatever it's called. And while I wouldn't call any of Ezri's episodes junk, she's the main reason why I only watched part of season 7 when I did a rewatch.

Jadzia is best, but we've all got our opinions, and they vary, which is okay.

lurok · October 31 2012, 11:44 AM

Dukhat wrote:

While I love DS9, I can count rather more junk episodes than that, mostly in the final season, between horrid shit like "Take Me Out to the Holosuite," and pretty much every episode involving Ezri Dax.

This. Though I don't mind Ezri/De Boer. Just prefer Jadzia/Farrell.

One thing that definitely separates: generally better acting. Though I think VOY is the funniest/most likeable series.

teacake · October 31 2012, 11:48 AM

TheRoyalFamily wrote:

Ezri Dax is Best Dax.

She is WAY more adorable than Curzon.

Dukhat · October 31 2012, 09:21 PM

TheRoyalFamily wrote:

Ezri Dax is Best Dax.

Let me be specific about that. I generally had no issues with Ezri Dax's character, or Nichole deBoer's acting (although Ezri was a bit whiny for my tastes...).

The problem I had was that they decided to introduce this brand-new character, and have several episodes devoted to her story, just for one season before the show ended. Dax should have stayed dead, as a casualty of war, and those stories of Ezri's should have been made into Dominion war arc stories. Perhaps that way, we could have had an ending to DS9 that was less rushed.

And "TMOTTH" should just never have been made. Period.

teacake · October 31 2012, 09:47 PM

Ezri Dax was a WONDER that transcended all normal storyline requirements.

Her perfection and cuteness are appropriate anywhere, anytime.

TiberiusMaximus · October 31 2012, 09:51 PM

The only thing I didn't like about Ezri was Jadzia's absence. I didn't have a problem with her character, I just liked Jadzia a lot.

And I loved "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang."

King Daniel Into Darkness · October 31 2012, 11:07 PM

Religious mumbo-jumbo. Thats what separates DS9 from other Treks.

Bamarren · October 31 2012, 11:26 PM

TheRoyalFamily wrote:

Ezri Dax is Best Dax.

I'm with you on "Take Me Out To the Holosuite," though. Maybe would have worked before the Dominion War, but not during. Also, baseball has no place.

I actually thought Take Me Out to the Holosuite was actually pretty well placed in the Dominion War.
It was a good team building and moral boosting event, which was really needed at that point, and gave the crew something else to think about for a while other than possible death and destruction. I think it was nice to see a complete change from the norm at that point, showed there was other things going on at the same time.

Not a baseball fan myself, but sport in general helps team building and seemed to work for the crew at this point.

J. Allen · November 1 2012, 06:35 AM

Take Me Out to the Holosuite is easily one of my favorite episodes of Season 7. As interesting as I find the Dominion War, a nice respite from all of the violence and destruction is appreciated.

teacake · November 1 2012, 06:38 AM

I didn't want a respite.

I wanted machinations and death!

AllStarEntprise · November 1 2012, 07:18 AM

I've watched 5 of the 6 Trek series to completion. With DS9 it didn't get interesting and gripping until it's 5th season around the time 'For The Uniform' and onward. I found it such a chore to sit through season 1-3. Too much of it was waiting around on the station and hoping something interesting would happen. The religious angle was annoying and boring, the Cardassians seemed like they had nothing better to do than fuck with the DS9 crew every other week, and the Dominion threat wasn't fully developed but constantly talked about as a reminder to what the plot of this show became after the religious mumbo jumbo didn't resonate after the first two seasons.

teacake · November 1 2012, 07:25 AM

AllStarEntprise wrote:

Too much of it was waiting around on the station and hoping something interesting would happen.

See I was always in love with the station itself. I love the idea of living on a space station, would far rather live there than a starship. I like transitional spaces that are hubs. Airports, train stations.. DS9 was all that with aliens. So I was quite happy to hang out there with the vole problems and Quarks establishment and cargo holds and all kinds of folk passing through.

October 30 2012, 10:17 PM	#1
Photon Commodore Location: Dixie	One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Trek Is: they fewer junk, throwaway episodes. Voyager had a few good ones, TNG had many like DS9. Still, the former had many, many, many very forgettable and dare I say many terrible episodes. Seriously, I can count on 1 hand DS9's junk eps. I would need more phalanges to get Voyager and TNG (and TOS)

October 31 2012, 04:57 AM	#3
TheRoyalFamily Fleet Captain Location: Mentone	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre Ezri Dax is Best Dax. I'm with you on "Take Me Out To the Holosuite," though. Maybe would have worked before the Dominion War, but not during. Also, baseball has no place. __________________ You perceive wrongly. I feel unimaginable happiness wasting time talking with women. I'm that type of human.

October 31 2012, 07:14 AM	#4
Spock/Uhura Fan Captain Location: Where It's At.	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre I don't find that there are very many episodes that I'd consider junk. Take Me Out To The Holosuite wasn't DS9's best, but it was an okay episode. The one I liked the least from season 7 was the Badda Bang Badda Boom ep, or whatever it's called. And while I wouldn't call any of Ezri's episodes junk, she's the main reason why I only watched part of season 7 when I did a rewatch. Jadzia is best, but we've all got our opinions, and they vary, which is okay. __________________ MA'AM. Hot damn, I can dig it.

October 31 2012, 09:47 PM	#8
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre Ezri Dax was a WONDER that transcended all normal storyline requirements. Her perfection and cuteness are appropriate anywhere, anytime. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

October 31 2012, 09:51 PM	#9
TiberiusMaximus Fleet Captain Location: A ship, a living ship, full of strange alien lifeforms.	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre The only thing I didn't like about Ezri was Jadzia's absence. I didn't have a problem with her character, I just liked Jadzia a lot. And I loved "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang." __________________ "Quite possibly, the five Jem'Hadar could turn Data into a collection of four spasming limbs, one helpless torso, and one head that shouts insults at them like the Black Knight from the Monty Python sketch." -Timo Saloniemi

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October 31 2012, 11:07 PM	#10
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: On holiday. Regular service will resume on July 6.	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre Religious mumbo-jumbo. Thats what separates DS9 from other Treks. __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3

November 1 2012, 06:35 AM	#12
J. Allen Professional Enabler Location: A Quantum State	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre Take Me Out to the Holosuite is easily one of my favorite episodes of Season 7. As interesting as I find the Dominion War, a nice respite from all of the violence and destruction is appreciated. __________________ The most horrible suffering one can bring upon another person in dire need, is that of indifference. With love, you try to uplift their life. With hatred, you seek to end that life. With indifference, however, you seek merely to render it inconsequential.

November 1 2012, 06:38 AM	#13
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre I didn't want a respite. I wanted machinations and death! __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

November 1 2012, 07:18 AM	#14
AllStarEntprise Commander	Re: One Thing That Seperates Star Trek: Deep Space Nine From Other Tre I've watched 5 of the 6 Trek series to completion. With DS9 it didn't get interesting and gripping until it's 5th season around the time 'For The Uniform' and onward. I found it such a chore to sit through season 1-3. Too much of it was waiting around on the station and hoping something interesting would happen. The religious angle was annoying and boring, the Cardassians seemed like they had nothing better to do than fuck with the DS9 crew every other week, and the Dominion threat wasn't fully developed but constantly talked about as a reminder to what the plot of this show became after the religious mumbo jumbo didn't resonate after the first two seasons.