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Old October 31 2012, 07:43 PM   #46
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Better than the original ARC team... They often ran headlong into dino-infested danger with nothing but their clothes on their backs. Seriously, I remember an early episode when the team leader went to investigate an anomaly wearing jeans and t-shirt.

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Old October 31 2012, 07:59 PM   #47
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Better than the original ARC team... They often ran headlong into dino-infested danger with nothing but their clothes on their backs.
Yeah... I always thought it was bizarre that in the first season, when Cutter's team was just this sort of makeshift operation run out of the Home Office, they always had extensive military backup when they took on the dinosaurs -- yet when the timeline was altered at the start of season 2 and they were suddenly part of this massive organization called the ARC, the core team nonetheless did everything on its own without a trace of backup.
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Old October 31 2012, 08:07 PM   #48
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It's kinda like the original, but with one step removed.

The original pushed the reset button and things turned to shit, forcing them to redirect resources to recover from that.
Here we have a spin-off which looks like shit and has to make it onto solid ground first.
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Old October 31 2012, 09:39 PM   #49
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ARC had soldiers, the team just never wanted them.
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Old October 31 2012, 09:57 PM   #50
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ARC had soldiers, the team just never wanted them.
Which is exactly my point. In the first season, they constantly used soldiers as backup even though they were just a small group of consultants. But in the second, they were part of a massive organization with a bunch of dedicated soldiers working specifically for them -- and they never bloomin' used them!! It was idiotic. I can see the storytelling reasons for wanting the protagonists to carry more of the burden of facing danger on their own, but if that was the writers' and producers' intention, then why create the ARC in the first place? Why give them more resources at the exact time you decided to show them using fewer resources? It never made any sense.
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Old October 31 2012, 11:08 PM   #51
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It was a health and safety issue.

As long as the soldiers are there on offer, it's a personal liability for the core team if they run afoul, and not a new burden tot he state.

Everything boils down to insurance.

besides.

Just because there's an anomaly, it doesn't mean that there's a dinosaur. I'd be more worried about different pressure systems or under water 2 million bc flooding the shit out latter day London. Imagine the consequences if an anomaly opened just high enough up to be in space?
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Old November 1 2012, 12:01 AM   #52
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ARC had soldiers, the team just never wanted them.
Which is exactly my point. In the first season, they constantly used soldiers as backup even though they were just a small group of consultants. But in the second, they were part of a massive organization with a bunch of dedicated soldiers working specifically for them -- and they never bloomin' used them!! It was idiotic. I can see the storytelling reasons for wanting the protagonists to carry more of the burden of facing danger on their own, but if that was the writers' and producers' intention, then why create the ARC in the first place? Why give them more resources at the exact time you decided to show them using fewer resources? It never made any sense.
This drove Lester mad, hence why Beckett was brought in as a permanent presence on the team. Everything daft was to wind him up and everything bad was Helen's doing :P I haven't watched season 1 in so long, this needs doing. Sadly the spin-off made me miss Primeval instead of feel like it was back. I might watch a few more episodes, see where it's heading. At least the lead guy's good.
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Old November 1 2012, 12:15 AM   #53
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The sexy bloke from season one and two who was shaggin' Helen behind Cutters back, he was abig game hunter, and had a couple elephant guns in the lock box on his truck, meanwhile Abby being a Zoologist was usually a few steps away from a tranquillizer rifle at most times.

Though season one as we know it didn't happen to these people.

the Arc or something like it was there in season one retroactively after the timeline changed.

Only Cutter and Helen had first hand experiences with the original timeline, and they both sort of died
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Old November 1 2012, 02:58 AM   #54
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Helen's evil plans will never die
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Old November 1 2012, 05:26 AM   #55
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Old November 6 2012, 11:23 AM   #56
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Okies.

Episode 2 was much better.

They still have a billionaire industrialist walking around like he's an assistant manager at radio shack, but now that everyone isn't so assforward explaining who they are and what they do it's less awful. Still awful, but really a hell of a lot less awful.

Project magnet remains a barrel of monkeys.

You remember Doctor Who form the 70s when he hung out with UNIT?

(Pretend you do.)

imagine they were still around today but lost their funding in 1974, and never leveled up or had a face list there after god bless their little cotton socks.

Serious!

Rotary dial telephones!

No Connor this week.

ODD?

Shit.

Andrew Lee Potts is only listed as being in on out of the first 8 episodes.

Lets hope that when the shit hits the fan that both Connor and Abby arrive to save the day for the final five episodes.

The dinosaur was barely on camera this week.

It's almost like they blew all thie money on the pilot and the rest of the season is going to be off camera, scary noises, seeing throiugh the dinosaurs eyes, and exposition.

Real world thoughts.

Amanda tapping is producing this while she's working on Supernatural asa na actress... Is the paycheck of a semi regular on Supernatural enough to bank roll an entire season of Primeval New World?



(IMDB says I'm way off, that she's not even a producer.)
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Old November 14 2012, 12:24 AM   #57
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"GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY!"

Episode 3 was actually good.

Maybe as good as an episode of season 3 or 4 Stargate Atlantis.

(The first episode I thought had been directed by Ed Wood. This is a significant improvement.)

Starts off, they had one of the girls running around in her underwear trying to get the sleep out of her eyes after crashing on the couch in the office as everything went to hell.

Gratuitous, but nii-iice.

They brought a new girl who like machine guns and motor cycles into the story line too... From how they talked about her, she might have been in the back ground during episode one and two and she looked like wallpaper.

There was an interesting sciency problem with altitude that they couldn't get back home because the anomaly was 30 feet up in the air.

Funny.

Carnivorous bugs.

Millions of them.

And a big one trying to breed with the humans by stuffing them with eggs deepthroat-style.
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Old November 28 2012, 09:18 AM   #58
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Okies, this show is getting quite good.

Sanctuary level good.

I stand by the fact that the pilot was awful, but developments are afoot.

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Old December 25 2012, 02:30 PM   #59
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And then this thread died.

I just saw this in SFX and thought I'd check it out. Interesting.

No one said it was created by Judith & Garfield Reeves Stevens, who are responsible for some of the better Trek novels as well as the final season of ENT. The stories have more, I dunno, consistency, but don't reach as far. Connor isn't in it enough to give it actual dinosaur verisimilitude, which was an aspect of the original I preferred. We aren't getting a sense of actual epochs, even though the terror birds can be narrowed down to the Cenozoic. The creature effects in the first ep were a little ropy but they improved quickly.

Oh, interesting tie back to TOS, as well as Connor.


The cast is not bad, and it will be interesting to see where it goes.
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ARC had soldiers, the team just never wanted them.
Which is exactly my point. In the first season, they constantly used soldiers as backup even though they were just a small group of consultants. But in the second, they were part of a massive organization with a bunch of dedicated soldiers working specifically for them -- and they never bloomin' used them!! It was idiotic. I can see the storytelling reasons for wanting the protagonists to carry more of the burden of facing danger on their own, but if that was the writers' and producers' intention, then why create the ARC in the first place? Why give them more resources at the exact time you decided to show them using fewer resources? It never made any sense.
Cutter didn't want the various besties killed just herded back though the anomalies, so in many ways the military was just there to police the people.
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