Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth sooner? - Page 2

BillJ · October 31 2012, 06:53 PM

I'd have preferred if they left them in the Delta Quadrant.

lurok · October 31 2012, 06:56 PM

No. It's Star Trek:Voyager, not Star Trek:Stuck At Home

Guy Gardener · October 31 2012, 07:36 PM

It should have been called Star Trek odyssey and you know it, but the Dominion blew up the Odyssey near the conclusion of season 2.

Besides, this always happens after you name a ship after a mass murderer.

That's why there's no USS Mitt Romney or USS Chelsea Clinton.

Galileo7 · October 31 2012, 08:26 PM

Seven of Five wrote:

Yeah I would have preferred something like that. Endgame was a bum note to go out on.

I always wondered about getting the crew home just before the last episode, and then have the finale set a year or so later. I'm thinking it would be a partial epilogue, but could also involve the Voyager crew needing to reunite to help Earth against some Delta Quadrant foe they have experience against. Not necessarily the Borg either.

I appreciated that the writers of Endgame did show us some of the Voyager crew in the future, but their fate was null and void after Admiral Janeway altered the timeline. Too much time was spent on characters that didn't exist, whereas the real crew were like, "Oh we're home now. Roll credits!"

Agree.

Seven of Five · October 31 2012, 08:30 PM

BillJ wrote:

I'd have preferred if they left them in the Delta Quadrant.

Being as it is Endgame we're stuck with, then I agree that it would have been a better ending to that particular story.

The way it was written, the most emotionally satisfying decision (for the audience) for the crew to make is to stay behind in order to weaken the Borg. They wouldn't make it home for another 16 years, but it would be the morally corrent choice.

The end of Endgame should have been Admiral Janeway learning the lesson about her crew that she did actually make in the actual episode, and then that should have been it. She could even still sacrifice herself to save them. None of this having their cake and eating it too bull.

Also this way, any scenes set in the future would actually be scenes from the future.

Sindatur · October 31 2012, 08:36 PM

Zombie Redshirt wrote:

Sindatur wrote:

Oh look, another Fan who thinks TATV was actually the ENT Finale, rather than some Fan Fiction story that made the rounds. Where did this ridiculous myth come from?

Oh look, another fan who's in denial that the producers & writers actually signed off on the stupidity that was TATV.

LOL, Touche, good Sir

MacLeod · October 31 2012, 08:51 PM

^I wasn't bothred that they decided to try and introduce new elements rather then keep the same old same old. As you say they played it safe, too safe.

JanewayRulz! · November 1 2012, 06:59 PM

The Overlord wrote:

Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth sooner?

No.

The premise of Voyager was to be, "out there, on their own".

Once they returned it wouldn't have been about "Voyager"... it would have been about "post apocalyptic Star Fleet."

R. Star · November 1 2012, 08:43 PM

What people are really saying they want is Season 8 of Deep Space Nine.

Guy Gardener · November 1 2012, 10:48 PM

The conclusion to the dominion war was pants.. the 12 part story was nice, but it really fell apart towards the end...If Voyagers had a slip stream drive... Which got them home in hours instead of decades, that means that if the Dominion war had continued, that they would just be all about commando raids on the dominions hind quarters.

teacake · November 2 2012, 06:33 AM

The fall of Cardassia is the most interesting (to me) part of the conclusion of the Dominion war.

lurok · November 2 2012, 11:52 AM

Fall of Cardassia; Founder interned; Sisko ascends....then...Voyager emerges from the wormhole chased by Borg fleet. Kira and Jake mutter: 'shit...'

Fade to black. To be continued...

Mytran · November 2 2012, 12:20 PM

Seven of Five wrote:

The way it was written, the most emotionally satisfying decision (for the audience) for the crew to make is to stay behind in order to weaken the Borg. They wouldn't make it home for another 16 years, but it would be the morally corrent choice.

The end of Endgame should have been Admiral Janeway learning the lesson about her crew that she did actually make in the actual episode, and then that should have been it. She could even still sacrifice herself to save them. None of this having their cake and eating it too bull.

Also this way, any scenes set in the future would actually be scenes from the future.

I really would have liked that!
Plus, Janeway would finally learn a lesson that she isn't always right to interfere.

LobsterAfternoon · November 2 2012, 04:39 PM

I think getting Voyager home too soon would've been counter to the point of the show. The show was about the journey. While DS9, with it's focus on Alpha Quad politics/conflict was definitely better and I would certainly like to see more of that, Voyager was not the place for it. That being said, they should've had at least a few episodes with the crew readjusting to life back home/the Doc and Seven trying to find a place in Federation society.

Bry_Sinclair · November 2 2012, 04:47 PM

I would have liked to have seen Voyager return home early, emerging into a quadrant where everything has changed and they have a lot to deal with. They could have had some really good character stories, then had a reshuffle and continued, with characters going in different directions so there would be plenty of scope for stories.

Failing that, finishing Endgame the same way they did Caretaker and having the crew sacrifice their way home for an innocent species would have been quite fitting, leaving the series very open-ended for if they would ever get home.

October 31 2012, 06:53 PM	#16
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: Greater Cincinnati	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone I'd have preferred if they left them in the Delta Quadrant. __________________ Boobies are evil!!!

October 31 2012, 06:56 PM	#17
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone No. It's Star Trek:Voyager, not Star Trek:Stuck At Home __________________ “Between ennui and ecstasy unwinds our whole experience of time.”

October 31 2012, 07:36 PM	#18
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone It should have been called Star Trek odyssey and you know it, but the Dominion blew up the Odyssey near the conclusion of season 2. Besides, this always happens after you name a ship after a mass murderer. That's why there's no USS Mitt Romney or USS Chelsea Clinton. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

October 31 2012, 08:51 PM	#22
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone ^I wasn't bothred that they decided to try and introduce new elements rather then keep the same old same old. As you say they played it safe, too safe. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

November 1 2012, 08:43 PM	#24
R. Star Commodore Location: Terra 3	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone What people are really saying they want is Season 8 of Deep Space Nine. __________________ "I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams

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November 1 2012, 10:48 PM	#25
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone The conclusion to the dominion war was pants.. the 12 part story was nice, but it really fell apart towards the end...If Voyagers had a slip stream drive... Which got them home in hours instead of decades, that means that if the Dominion war had continued, that they would just be all about commando raids on the dominions hind quarters. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

November 2 2012, 06:33 AM	#26
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone The fall of Cardassia is the most interesting (to me) part of the conclusion of the Dominion war. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

November 2 2012, 11:52 AM	#27
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone Fall of Cardassia; Founder interned; Sisko ascends....then...Voyager emerges from the wormhole chased by Borg fleet. Kira and Jake mutter: 'shit...' Fade to black. To be continued... __________________ “Between ennui and ecstasy unwinds our whole experience of time.”

November 2 2012, 04:39 PM	#29
LobsterAfternoon Commander	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone I think getting Voyager home too soon would've been counter to the point of the show. The show was about the journey. While DS9, with it's focus on Alpha Quad politics/conflict was definitely better and I would certainly like to see more of that, Voyager was not the place for it. That being said, they should've had at least a few episodes with the crew readjusting to life back home/the Doc and Seven trying to find a place in Federation society.

November 2 2012, 04:47 PM	#30
Bry_Sinclair Commodore Location: Along the border of Talarian space	Re: Would Voyager have been better if the ship returned to Earth soone I would have liked to have seen Voyager return home early, emerging into a quadrant where everything has changed and they have a lot to deal with. They could have had some really good character stories, then had a reshuffle and continued, with characters going in different directions so there would be plenty of scope for stories. Failing that, finishing Endgame the same way they did Caretaker and having the crew sacrifice their way home for an innocent species would have been quite fitting, leaving the series very open-ended for if they would ever get home. __________________ Avatar: Captain Hilgrat Ja-Inrosh (deceased), Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)