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Old October 30 2012, 05:42 PM   #451
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Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

Did you guys actually check out the new screencap from S2 on TrekCore?
Sorry to say, but it looks like CRAP:

http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/29102012s2stills.html


Actually I do not understand what went wrong, the screencap for S2 trailer does look excellent.
Look at the starfield...! The new screencap looks like background is just upscaled.

S2 Trailer screencap (looks good):


New S2 screencap (looks like crap):
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Old October 30 2012, 06:35 PM   #452
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The new shot looks low rez. Even in the first shot they've messed up the colours on the warp engines and deflector and the planet is blurry, featureless mess, they may as well have uprezzed the original shot.

Neither compare to these from S1:



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Old October 30 2012, 06:43 PM   #453
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On trekcore it is stated that this is the final version from the finished product. So if that is true and they are releasing this image to show off their work then season 2 might be in serious trouble. At any rate we might need to brace ourselves that season 2 will fail to live up to the high standards CBS digital achieved for season 1.
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Old October 30 2012, 06:59 PM   #454
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On trekcore it is stated that this is the final version from the finished product. So if that is true and they are releasing this image to show off their work then season 2 might be in serious trouble. At any rate we might need to brace ourselves that season 2 will fail to live up to the high standards CBS digital achieved for season 1.
Yes, the images were sent out to Amazon Germany as final promotional shots. I was certainly surprised when I saw it, it almost seems as though the planet was rendered at sub-HD resolution. Still, it's unfair to judge until we see the final version in motion!
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Old October 30 2012, 08:45 PM   #455
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Let's not overreact. This is just one frame from one episode and the image isn't in full HD. Yes, the planet looks more soft and less detailed than what we've come to expect. But this could be an intentional artistic choice that might look far better in motion.
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Old October 30 2012, 11:13 PM   #456
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Let's not overreact. This is just one frame from one episode and the image isn't in full HD. Yes, the planet looks more soft and less detailed than what we've come to expect. But this could be an intentional artistic choice that might look far better in motion.
Agreed. This looks nowhere near as bad as some here and on the TrekCore discussion page make it sound like. Still this image looks really good and far superior to everything we got before, quality-wise.
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Old October 31 2012, 12:16 AM   #457
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Hmm. That Pen Pals shot is not FullHD resolution though. Yes, it looks bad here but I'd rather wait and see what it really looks like at full res.

It does make me slightly worried however.
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Old October 31 2012, 12:49 AM   #458
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I'm not going to unleash the hate on the season 2 blu-ray until more images are released. The S2 trailer looked pretty decent so I can't imagine the final product looking any worse than what we saw there.
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Old October 31 2012, 02:44 AM   #459
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I blame Dan Curry!

I kind of kid. During the initial run of TNG, teh two effects producers Curry and LEgato (until Legato left to do DS9, you could always see a distinct difference between the two with Legato's work sharper, and Curry's a lighter softer and more lite.


I know Dan is working as an adviser to the group who is doing season two and I honestly was wondering if his perspective would be for a softer looking presentation.

I hope I am wrong. Though as stated it is still far superior to what we have for season two.
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Old October 31 2012, 09:50 AM   #460
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To be honest, I find it ridiculous how many people (not necessarily here) cry foul over one fucking screencap! I mean, come on, this is just one still image of several hours of material. And I bet even that one looks just fine in motion. I cannot grasp how anyone would cancel his order over this. Star Trek fans are a funny bunch sometimes.
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Old October 31 2012, 12:22 PM   #461
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To be honest, I find it ridiculous how many people (not necessarily here) cry foul over one fucking screencap! I mean, come on, this is just one still image of several hours of material. And I bet even that one looks just fine in motion. I cannot grasp how anyone would cancel his order over this. Star Trek fans are a funny bunch sometimes.
If it turns out that S2 doesn't hold up to the quality of S1, then why should somebody pay for something they're not happy with? Depending on the final price, the set will cost 6 to 8 hours at work. So pretty much a day for a bluray set. I'm not rich.

I've noticed the difference between the footage we've seen so far for S2, specifically the colours looking different (I much preferred the colours on the ship for S1). If it turns out that it looks fine, that's great, but I don't think anyone is obligated to pay for something they're not satisfied with just because you can't grasp it.
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Old October 31 2012, 01:57 PM   #462
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To be honest, I find it ridiculous how many people (not necessarily here) cry foul over one fucking screencap! I mean, come on, this is just one still image of several hours of material. And I bet even that one looks just fine in motion. I cannot grasp how anyone would cancel his order over this. Star Trek fans are a funny bunch sometimes.
I agree that a single screenshot and a trailer (hopefully) with temp effects isn't enough to justify cancelling a pre-order, that's absolutely ridiculous.

But there's no smoke without fire, the effects should at the very least measure up to what we've seen with season one, and from the little evidence we have been presented with so far, the conclusion people are drawing is that it doesn't.
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Old October 31 2012, 02:49 PM   #463
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I agree that a single screenshot and a trailer (hopefully) with temp effects isn't enough to justify cancelling a pre-order, that's absolutely ridiculous.
That's not the issue.

The screenshot from the trailer with temp effects looked fine, it's the screenshot from the 'finished' product posted on Trekcore that people are concerned about.
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Old October 31 2012, 03:00 PM   #464
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I agree that a single screenshot and a trailer (hopefully) with temp effects isn't enough to justify cancelling a pre-order, that's absolutely ridiculous.
That's not the issue.

The screenshot from the trailer with temp effects looked fine, it's the screenshot from the 'finished' product posted on Trekcore that people are concerned about.
I think neither of them measure up to any of the orbit shots from season one, the comment at the top of the discussion on TrekCore is mine .
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Old October 31 2012, 05:46 PM   #465
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I need more of a sample size before I freak out and, even then, I'm not gonna freak out.

I'm sure it'll be fine guys.
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