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Old October 28 2012, 04:09 AM   #61
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Re: Mockingbird Lane - It didn't suck!

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I rather enjoyed this and would like it to continue. I enjoyed how dark it got, though that could be a bit much for NBC. Too bad too, Izzard was great, and I enjoyed de Rossi too.
Nah. This is the same network that broadcasts cop shows where we see grisly bodies and murder scenes, hear stories about children being molested, and all sorts of people committing suicide. They can't use that as an excuse without being very hypocritical.
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Old October 28 2012, 04:20 AM   #62
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But the protagonists are the ones doing "evil things." That upends that tidy broadcast sense of morality. It's not the gore per se that scares the suits.

PS, I watched the episode at NBC's website if anyone is interested in giving it a shot, it's still there.
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Old October 28 2012, 04:24 AM   #63
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But the protagonists are the ones doing "evil things." That upends that tidy broadcast sense of morality. It's not the gore per se that scares the suits.
good point
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Old October 28 2012, 04:29 AM   #64
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But the protagonists are the ones doing "evil things." That upends that tidy broadcast sense of morality. It's not the gore per se that scares the suits.

PS, I watched the episode at NBC's website if anyone is interested in giving it a shot, it's still there.
I see your point, though I've seen the "good" guys on SVU do some seriously messed up shit in their pursuit of "justice".
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Old October 28 2012, 04:32 AM   #65
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I rather enjoyed this and would like it to continue. I enjoyed how dark it got, though that could be a bit much for NBC. Too bad too, Izzard was great, and I enjoyed de Rossi too.
Nah. This is the same network that broadcasts cop shows where we see grisly bodies and murder scenes, hear stories about children being molested, and all sorts of people committing suicide. They can't use that as an excuse without being very hypocritical.
But those cop shows, the cops usually get the criminal.

Temis said it in a better way than I did, it's the morality of the protagonists having such gray morality, not the gore that makes it dark.

Plus, I wouldn't put it past NBC to do something hypocritical.
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Old October 28 2012, 05:11 AM   #66
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Loved it. Izzard was clearly the show's comedic heart, and the rest of the cast was smart and fun to watch, too. And the justification for Spot was perfect!

Please, someone pick this show up!
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Old October 28 2012, 05:17 AM   #67
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I rather enjoyed this and would like it to continue. I enjoyed how dark it got, though that could be a bit much for NBC. Too bad too, Izzard was great, and I enjoyed de Rossi too.
Nah. This is the same network that broadcasts cop shows where we see grisly bodies and murder scenes, hear stories about children being molested, and all sorts of people committing suicide. They can't use that as an excuse without being very hypocritical.
But those cop shows, the cops usually get the criminal.

Temis said it in a better way than I did, it's the morality of the protagonists having such gray morality, not the gore that makes it dark.

Plus, I wouldn't put it past NBC to do something hypocritical.
Point taken. I would just like someone to pick the show up. I would definitely watch it.
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Old October 28 2012, 05:23 AM   #68
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I thought of something after it ended. What if instead of a weekly series, they just did it as an annual Halloween thing?
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Old October 28 2012, 05:45 AM   #69
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^Well, Eddy would change a lot.
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Old October 28 2012, 08:27 AM   #70
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I thought it was a very enjoyable hour of television, and would love to see more on the off-chance that that's in the cards. It struck just the right chord between faithfulness for fans of the original and freshness for new viewers and those looking for something different.

Izzard was the standout as Grandpa, and delivered a funny and compelling performance as someone who makes no apologies for what he is yet still loves his family a great deal. An almost unrecognizable but still gorgeous de Rossi also gave a great performance as the more conflicted Lily. O'Connell's Herman was somewhat subdued, but still well done, and the kid playing Eddy did a good job as well. Marylin was the only one who was so so and not really noteworthy. I thought the supporting players of the scoutmaster and the neighbor's wife brought memorable performances to their short time onscreen.

The production design for the show was fantastic, from the standing sets of the interior of the mansion, to the exterior shots, and to the CGI Grandpa as full monster and Spot. I thought Lily's methods of entering, getting dressed, and uh, getting excited were extremely well done.

I don't understand what NBC was expecting tone-wise for this either, as it was right in Bryan Fuller's dark, quirky, morbidly amusing wheelhouse. I hope it gets a second chance, because I think it would be a great companion to Grimm and solid counterprogramming to ABC's Once Upon a Time.
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Old October 28 2012, 02:00 PM   #71
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Fine. Accidental or not, All I want is for Mockingbird Lane to have the same chance.
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By "accidental," I was referring to G-Man's response to my references to other shows that got six episodes or less before cancellation, not the cancellation itself, which of course wouldn't have been a fucking "accident."

And yes, I'm perfectly aware that the show would have to be picked up first to get the same chance the other shows got, which I thought was the point when I wrote "I would like the show to get the same chance." I'm not a fucking moron.
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Old October 28 2012, 04:44 PM   #72
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On rewatching I think Marilyn is my second-favorite character - mainly for her scenes with Grandpa. Her false front of normality makes her creepier than most of the rest of the family.

Herman and Lily are the real "normal" couple, emotionally - mainly expressed through their concern for Eddie's well-being and a little frisson of domestic angst. Grandpa is a monster who views humanity as prey. Marilyn is conflicted, like everyone but Grandpa, but hers is that she's a monster who empathizes with the prey.

Her delivery of "then they've found a home at last" is one of the most delightfully weird character moments in the show, and very much Bryan Fuller.
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Old October 28 2012, 05:04 PM   #73
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On rewatching I think Marilyn is my second-favorite character - mainly for her scenes with Grandpa. Her false front of normality makes her creepier than most of the rest of the family.

Herman and Lily are the real "normal" couple, emotionally - mainly expressed through their concern for Eddie's well-being and a little frisson of domestic angst. Grandpa is a monster who views humanity as prey. Marilyn is conflicted, like everyone but Grandpa, but hers is that she's a monster who empathizes with the prey.

Her delivery of "then they've found a home at last" is one of the most delightfully weird character moments in the show, and very much Bryan Fuller.

Yeah, Marilyn was surprisingly creepy. I loved the whole bit with the realtor at the beginning.

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Old October 28 2012, 05:21 PM   #74
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You know there's a lot of material for Fuller and company to dig into there with her mother/Grandpa's other daughter who's absent - and bravo to them for touching on that back story (along with most of Herman's) only very lightly in the pilot.

Damn, the more I think about this show the more cheated I'm feeling.
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I really enjoyed it and would watch if it were a series. I agree, Marilyn was the creepiest. I liked Herman too.
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