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Old October 27 2012, 06:52 AM   #16
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Re: Mockingbird Lane - It didn't suck!

I thought it was crap and can definitely see why it wasnt picked up by series--even by the bottom dwellers at NBC.

Even if it didn't have to live up to the nostalgia of the original as a standalone pilot it was dull and trite. The only thing outstanding were the costumes and special effects and Portia De Rossi--everything else sucked.

I know a lot of people looooooooooooooove Bryan Fuller but I don't think he is that great--he seems to do a bunch of quirky bizarre shows just for the sake of it and who cares about good writing.
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Old October 27 2012, 08:08 AM   #17
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i thought it was pretty enjoyable. i love the original and expected to hate this...but it was fun. dark, but fun.
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Old October 27 2012, 01:52 PM   #18
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I was pleasantly surprised... I feel like it could have had some potential as a series. In particular, Eddie Izzard was brilliant. I laughed at pretty much every one of his lines. Playing a comedic version of Dracula is right in his wheelhouse. Also, Portia DiRossi looked like a million bucks... Ellen's a lucky broad.

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Old October 27 2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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So, Mom's power was "the dramatic entrance"? lol.
I wasn't complaining when she made it. As stated above, Ellen scored a coup with this one...

Still, give Lily some credit. She can also turn to mist, command spiders and lay on the ceiling when she orgasms. That's quite an impressive skill set.
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Old October 27 2012, 02:28 PM   #20
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I had a mixed reaction to Mockingbird Lane.

The production design was fantastic. The cast was great. The direction was more like vintage Tim Burton than anything Burton's done since Sleepy Hollow. I enjoyed watching it.

The script, however, was not particularly good. Don't get me wrong, the one-liners were great. However, it was trying very hard to introduce all the characters while also having a story, and I don't think it did a very good job juggling that. And, for a pilot, I didn't get a good feel for what kind of series this would be. It felt very unfocused. It could have used Jim Dale as a narrator.

Oh, and Portia de Rossi was criminally underused. I agree with Ellen DeGeneres, she was almost unrecognizable in the role.

In short, there was a lot of good in Mockingbird Lane, but there it was also a fuzzy, unfocused pilot. That's probably why NBC passed on it.
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Old October 27 2012, 02:32 PM   #21
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Eddie Izzard was as fabulous as you'd expect. Jerry O'Connell nearly gave the pilot some heart.

The hour format was too bloated. Like No Ordinary Family, dramedy really calls for a half hour format, the tension in moods is too draining to sustain for that long.

But the women, except for the neighbor, were dull. (Some of us are too jaded to get romantic over our TV sets.) The kid's unhappiness wasn't amusing but is too far fetched to actually feel any sympathy for. Only the wheelchair bound neighbor showed any signs of genuinely comedic conflict, however dark.

Glad to see it, but no loss for not getting picked up I suspect.
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Old October 27 2012, 03:12 PM   #22
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I forgot to set the DVR. Dang.

From what I've read it sounds like it should have been a movie. The performances were good, the visuals interesting but it would have been hard to keep up the plots (Grandpa killing people, Herman getting his heart replaced on a regular basis) on a weekly basis without going stale.
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Old October 27 2012, 04:18 PM   #23
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Hulu has it
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Old October 27 2012, 05:39 PM   #24
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Just finished watching it on Hulu.

I think Fuller lost the network in the first three minutes when
Don’t get me wrong. I thought some of it was fun for us geeks but I think the network, given the brand, wanted something a little more “family friendly” than a TV-14 show.

O’Connell’s Herman was likeable but, for lack of better term, too intelligent and “deep.” Herman doesn’t need to be a complete dullard with bolts in his neck, but I think it needed more of a good natured, slightly awkward, father...more of gentle giant than zombified male model. I understand having Herman looking like the Universal Frankenstein monster wouldn't work in today's world but Herman should still be a big lunky guy that is a bit like a big child. In many ways, Cheyenne Jackson (the scoutmaster) would have been a better Herman. Patrick Warbuton, even with O’Connell’s subdued makeup, would have killed in this role (no pun intended).

My favorite moment with Herman was when
. That echoed back to the original series and how Herman and Grandpa would come up with some wacky scheme and Lily would chastise them both.

Izzard was good. He’s always good. Clearly, the highlight of the show.

I appreciated the fact that Fuller didn’t go for the easy joke of having
Happily though he was above that.

I was a bit disappointed with Del Rossi. She’s proven on other shows, including “Better Off Ted” and “Arrested Development” that she can deftly balance being likeable and vampish. Yet, ironically enough, here she played an actual vampire and she made her character extremely sweet and actually a little bland.

I liked the kid that played Eddie. He did a good job playing normal, but self aware.

I didn’t care for Marilyn at all. She was much a caricature of a 1950s ingenue. Why would they spend so much time supposedly ‘updating’ the show and then have someone who looks and acts like she’s from five decades earlier as a major part of the family?

at the end was a nice touch.

Overall, I think it would have worked better as a movie and/or a recast/slightly rewritten Herman.
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Old October 27 2012, 05:44 PM   #25
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I had some mixed reactions to it. Overall I liked it. Sometimes it was a bit too dark and graphic. I agree that Herman should be a little more different in looks and actions. In many ways he seemed more "normal" and less like a typical Munster. I did like the story itself and the special effects were great and as a lover of monsters I was happy that after almost 50 years we finally saw Spot the dragon!!!
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Old October 27 2012, 05:50 PM   #26
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Just for clarification. Is this not going to be a series and is this all we'll get?
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Old October 27 2012, 05:55 PM   #27
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Fuller insists it might still go to series, but I just don't see it happening unless the pilot turns out to have been the most watched thing on TV this week. And I really, really, doubt it was.
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Old October 27 2012, 06:10 PM   #28
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Fuller insists it might still go to series, but I just don't see it happening unless the pilot turns out to have been the most watched thing on TV this week. And I really, really, doubt it was.
If it doesn't go to series I hope they release the pilot on DVD it would be fun to watch each Halloween.
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Old October 27 2012, 06:40 PM   #29
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You liked it a lot more than I did, then. I didn't hate it, even kind of liked it, but I can't see watching it again, especially when you've got so many other classics to watch on any given Halloween.
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Old October 27 2012, 06:44 PM   #30
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So, so far here the general feeling is the show's not perfect but okay, Herman could have been cast better, it probably wouldn't have made it as a series and Eddie Izzard - unsurprisingly - owned it. And there's one absolute 'No.' Sounds about right.

Personally, I think it could do well with one of those 6-episode deals. I doubt you could sustain what was in the pilot for 22 or 13 eps, but it shouldn't be that hard to make it work for five more shows.
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