WOLVERINE director search down to 8 - Page 16

davejames · October 25 2012, 06:02 PM

Well I've never understood the hatred of Last Stand to begin with (to me it's only crime was being a bit bland and generic), so I don't have a problem at all following it up.

Gaith · October 25 2012, 08:24 PM

davejames wrote:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=96373

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Alidar Jarok · October 25 2012, 09:41 PM

Who cares, if this makes for a better movie?

Admiral_Young · October 25 2012, 11:42 PM

This is no surprise to me considering the Jean Grey School pic that leaked a few months ago.

Set Harth · October 26 2012, 12:42 AM

So this film is ignoring the people who ignore The Last Stand?

Eduardo · October 26 2012, 12:43 AM

Admiral_Young wrote:

This is no surprise to me considering the Jean Grey School pic that leaked a few months ago.

That was revealed to be actually from The Great Gatsby, they were tearing down a set from that movie.

Admiral_Young · October 26 2012, 12:59 AM

Oh that's disappointing. Guess that is what I get for even giving Comic Book Movies even an ounce of credit lol.

JD · October 26 2012, 02:01 AM

I'm glad to see them going forward with this one. This way we don't have to worry about how well it lines up with the other movies quite as much.

Gaith · October 26 2012, 03:09 AM

JD wrote:

I'm glad to see them going forward with this one. This way we don't have to worry about how well it lines up with the other movies quite as much.

If it were a self-contained story, set mostly or even entirely in Japan, ending with Logan walking off into the sunset, why would we have to worry about anything lining up?!

With Singer around, I'll not panic or anything, yet, but unless this is deliberately building to FC2, I fail to see how setting it after X3 is any kind of plus.

Captaindemotion · October 26 2012, 04:37 PM

Gaith wrote:

JD wrote:

I'm glad to see them going forward with this one. This way we don't have to worry about how well it lines up with the other movies quite as much.

If it were a self-contained story, set mostly or even entirely in Japan, ending with Logan walking off into the sunset, why would we have to worry about anything lining up?!

With Singer around, I'll not panic or anything, yet, but unless this is deliberately building to FC2, I fail to see how setting it after X3 is any kind of plus.

Well, it avoids continuity quibbles about how it contradicts the first 3 X-Men movies or First Class or whatever. And it allows for character growth for Logan - we don't have to ensure that the character at the end of the movie is the same as the guy at the start of X-Men. In other words, no adamantium bullets or other magical reset button required.

Also, I personally think it might be nice to see what has happened to the character since the events of TLS, and possibly to some of the other X-Men.

Finally, I think some of the set pics that have leaked would certainly suggest that this movie will be set at different time periods, so we will get to see pre-X-Men Wolvie.

Set Harth · October 26 2012, 11:12 PM

Captaindemotion wrote:

Gaith wrote:

JD wrote:

I'm glad to see them going forward with this one. This way we don't have to worry about how well it lines up with the other movies quite as much.

If it were a self-contained story, set mostly or even entirely in Japan, ending with Logan walking off into the sunset, why would we have to worry about anything lining up?!

With Singer around, I'll not panic or anything, yet, but unless this is deliberately building to FC2, I fail to see how setting it after X3 is any kind of plus.

Well, it avoids continuity quibbles about how it contradicts the first 3 X-Men movies or First Class or whatever.

It could just as easily have such problems if the proper care is not taken, no matter when it is set. And if it's all about Logan it would have to really go out of its way to contradict FC ( which contradicts the other films anyway ).

Captaindemotion · October 26 2012, 11:35 PM

^Well, there was the whole Prof-X-walking-in-Origins thing. But yeah, I suppose it's FC which contradicts Origins and TLS, as they both had an older Xavier walking.

It's not so much continuity errors - and you can have continuity errors in any sequel or prequel - which bother me as the need they apparently felt in Origins to wipe the slate (and Logan's mind) at the end and try to ensure that all fitted in with the movies made earlier but set later. At least in a post-TLS sequel, you can shake the box up a bit.

Set Harth · October 27 2012, 12:05 AM

Captaindemotion wrote:

^Well, there was the whole Prof-X-walking-in-Origins thing.

I'm talking about the 2013 film specifically. To contradict FC it would have to do something along the lines of having Logan confined in a foreign country during a period of time including 1962, so that his FC appearance wouldn't work. But I doubt that will happen.

Captaindemotion wrote:

It's not so much continuity errors - and you can have continuity errors in any sequel or prequel - which bother me as the need they apparently felt in Origins to wipe the slate (and Logan's mind) at the end and try to ensure that all fitted in with the movies made earlier but set later.

Well, we knew Logan's memory had to be erased at some point. That's in the nature of a prequel. The twist was that it was not erased during the adamantium procedure as originally implied. But you wouldn't have to worry about that if you made a Wolverine film set between Origins and the first film, because he's already forgotten his past by that point and so it's the same as X1 in that respect.

Samurai8472 · October 27 2012, 02:00 AM

Gaith wrote:

With Singer around, I'll not panic or anything, yet, but unless this is deliberately building to FC2, I fail to see how setting it after X3 is any kind of plus.

If they made a movie between XMO:W and X-Men 1, there's literally nothing they could do in terms of character development. At the end of Origins, he's freshly amnesia-ed with nothing but his leather jacket, and that's how we find him at the start of X-Men.

What would be the point of a movie where he has to finish the movie exactly the same as he started? It'd be too much of a slave to the continuity that we complain about.

Imagine having to shoot him in the head again in "Wolverine" to set things right for "X-men"

Gaith · October 27 2012, 03:00 AM

Jack Nicholson's character goes from jaded to in love/concerned to jaded again in Chinatown, one of cinema's most acclaimed films.

Peter Parker goes from idealistic hero to jaded quitter to idealistic hero in Spider-Man 2. I seem to recall that one getting some good notices.

Besides, we don't really see Wolvie after his brain-wipe in Origins. Maybe it makes him a lot softer and fuzzier than he was before, and his time in Japan left him jaded?

Again, maybe this is part of some new grand plan for FC2, but I'm worried.

October 25 2012, 06:02 PM	#226
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 Well I've never understood the hatred of Last Stand to begin with (to me it's only crime was being a bit bland and generic), so I don't have a problem at all following it up.

October 25 2012, 09:41 PM	#228
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 Who cares, if this makes for a better movie? __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

October 25 2012, 11:42 PM	#229
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 This is no surprise to me considering the Jean Grey School pic that leaked a few months ago. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

October 26 2012, 12:42 AM	#230
Set Harth Rear Admiral Location: Ekkaia	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 So this film is ignoring the people who ignore The Last Stand? __________________ "Your grandfather called me a ronin. A samurai without a master. Who has no reason to live." "Was he right?" Last edited by Set Harth; October 26 2012 at 02:53 AM.

October 26 2012, 12:59 AM	#232
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 Oh that's disappointing. Guess that is what I get for even giving Comic Book Movies even an ounce of credit lol. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

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October 26 2012, 02:01 AM	#233
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 I'm glad to see them going forward with this one. This way we don't have to worry about how well it lines up with the other movies quite as much. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

October 26 2012, 11:35 PM	#237
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 ^Well, there was the whole Prof-X-walking-in-Origins thing. But yeah, I suppose it's FC which contradicts Origins and TLS, as they both had an older Xavier walking. It's not so much continuity errors - and you can have continuity errors in any sequel or prequel - which bother me as the need they apparently felt in Origins to wipe the slate (and Logan's mind) at the end and try to ensure that all fitted in with the movies made earlier but set later. At least in a post-TLS sequel, you can shake the box up a bit. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

October 27 2012, 03:00 AM	#240
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: WOLVERINE director search down to 8 Jack Nicholson's character goes from jaded to in love/concerned to jaded again in Chinatown, one of cinema's most acclaimed films. Peter Parker goes from idealistic hero to jaded quitter to idealistic hero in Spider-Man 2. I seem to recall that one getting some good notices. Besides, we don't really see Wolvie after his brain-wipe in Origins. Maybe it makes him a lot softer and fuzzier than he was before, and his time in Japan left him jaded? Again, maybe this is part of some new grand plan for FC2, but I'm worried.