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Old October 23 2012, 04:31 PM   #16
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Re: John Simm wants to be the Master again

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^ One of Doctor Who's greatest strengths, and one of its biggest problems, is that the writers can do anything they damn well please. The set up doesn't have any rules, and any walls erected by one writer can be easily broken by the next. If they're bothering to "respect" continuity at all.
Have you seen the "Eleventh Hour" Doctor Who confidential?

Moffat at the read through table had this cloud of superiority around him


"I am Steven Moffat, head writer and executive producer of Doctor Who"


Methinks he's got a bit of "Executive Producer Victorious" going on.
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Old October 23 2012, 05:21 PM   #17
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I wasn't really talking in terms of arrogance, but in scope. There's nothing that can't be undone or contradicted, or ignored. On the subject of Moffat, though, frankly he deserves every particle of superiority he can cram into his skull so more power to him
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Old October 23 2012, 07:42 PM   #18
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I definitely want to see John Simm's darker, quieter take on The Master. Make this happen, Moffat!
Well, the 50th anniversary without the Master doesn't bear thinking about...
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Old October 23 2012, 11:47 PM   #19
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I dunno, it seems it would take something quite unusual to happen to allow the Master to return and not the other Timelords. And after what he discovered about his past, would he want to go back to his old universe ruling self?

But damn the story logic. I wouldn't mind seeing him back.

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Have you seen the "Eleventh Hour" Doctor Who confidential?

Moffat at the read through table had this cloud of superiority around him


"I am Steven Moffat, head writer and executive producer of Doctor Who"


Methinks he's got a bit of "Executive Producer Victorious" going on.
I'm not sure I'd take that comment quite that seriously. Hes been a fan since he was a small kid, and here he is at the first readthrough of the first story of the show he's now running. Can't say I blame him for having a *Squee* moment.
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Old October 24 2012, 03:15 AM   #20
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The last time he came back from the abyss it was explained away by the line "the timelords resurrected me". That's it. That's all anyone needed.
Hell, even in the classic era whenever it seemed the Master died and he came back it was rarely dwelled on. Usually we just had dialogue like:

Doctor: "I thought you died when [reference to the Master's previous appearance]."
Master: "Obviously not."
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Old October 24 2012, 03:31 AM   #21
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Even I know the old doctor who staple trap and I've only seen a handful of classic era episode

The doctor- how did you manage to escape the so and so?

The master- oh there will be plenty of time for questions
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Old October 24 2012, 03:40 AM   #22
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Yea, crispy Critter into Ainley was about the only thorough explanation we ever got (And Snake into Eric Roberts, too I suppose). Many times, the same actor came back from a certain death (That we actually watched) with barely a handwave
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Old October 24 2012, 03:41 AM   #23
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I'd love to see him back, but leave the camp at home, m'kay?
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Old October 24 2012, 05:13 PM   #24
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Re: John Simm wants to be the Master again

People actually feel the blond hair was a mistake? I couldn't even remember his hair color...Are there no blonds in England?

Anyway, if the Master does come back, I'd like them to acknowledge the events of "The End of Time" and have the Master do some reacting/soul searching. I'd ultimately like him to go back to what he's always been but you can't learn that your identity was based on something that turned out to be somebody else's meddling and not have an identity crisis. This seems like the perfect oppourtunity to have Simm explore his idea for a darker "Master".
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Old October 24 2012, 05:20 PM   #25
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Well, his best bet at this would be (how he gets out of the Time Lock, I have no idea), but his turn darker will be trying to get revenge on the TimeLords. It'll have to be big, because they don't exist in time anymore. Maybe bring the rest of the Universe into the Time Lock. It's ok Steve, just give me a BASED ON AN IDEA BY credit.
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Old October 25 2012, 01:51 AM   #26
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^^I don't know that he really needs to get revenge on the Time Lords. The one responsible for planting the Sound of Drums in his head was Rassilon, who I doubt survived the Master's lightning attack.
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Old October 25 2012, 02:00 AM   #27
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Yeah ... bring him back. And the Time Lords with him. After he's become their despotic leader and rescued them from the Time Lock using ruthless cunning. A universe now at risk from a new Gallifrey that will stop at nothing to satisfy the Master's will.

There should be a season or two's worth of stories buried in there.
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Old October 25 2012, 02:36 AM   #28
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Interesting that he didn't care for that take on the character. I'm not sure the show is in a place to handle it better, I'm curious what direction it will take in the too belayed post-Pond period.
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Old October 25 2012, 02:54 AM   #29
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I really like John Simm's Master, but he was really Tennant's Master, I'd just as soon see a new Master for Matt Smith's Doctor.
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Old October 25 2012, 03:00 AM   #30
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The last time he came back from the abyss it was explained away by the line "the timelords resurrected me". That's it. That's all anyone needed.
Hell, even in the classic era whenever it seemed the Master died and he came back it was rarely dwelled on. Usually we just had dialogue like:

Doctor: "I thought you died when [reference to the Master's previous appearance]."
Master: "Obviously not."
Well we never did learn how he survived Planet Of Fire.
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