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Old October 22 2012, 06:04 PM   #61
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Re: Speculation: Must the villain be Gary Mitchell, or... ?

Hehehe. We may be onto something, here....let's hope for the best!
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Old October 23 2012, 12:37 PM   #62
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At the top of the cover, on the left, enlarging the image, I saw a shadow of a ship (I think so), a nascelle and a disc, but itīs not like the Enterprise. Can anyone see this or itīs an illusion?
I don't see it...

I just watched the TOS episode Where No Man Has Gone Before and it dawned on me that this picture appears to be a man, I presume Kirk and or Mitchell, with a ripped Starfleet uniform, just like it was ripped in that episode. Am I alone in that opinion?
I definitely agree. The shirt is torn exactly like it was in the episode with the neck ring intact.
Ships? Shirt rips? Heh.


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Old October 23 2012, 02:30 PM   #63
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where are my glasses?
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Old October 23 2012, 03:35 PM   #64
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Re: Speculation: Must the villain be Gary Mitchell, or... ?

Tosk wrote: View Post
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At the top of the cover, on the left, enlarging the image, I saw a shadow of a ship (I think so), a nascelle and a disc, but itīs not like the Enterprise. Can anyone see this or itīs an illusion?
I don't see it...

I just watched the TOS episode Where No Man Has Gone Before and it dawned on me that this picture appears to be a man, I presume Kirk and or Mitchell, with a ripped Starfleet uniform, just like it was ripped in that episode. Am I alone in that opinion?

I definitely agree. The shirt is torn exactly like it was in the episode with the neck ring intact.
Ships? Shirt rips? Heh.

Well okay....I stand corrected, however, I still think it will be Gary Mitchell, and if not him, the villain will be Soran. Soran is getting back at Kirk because Kirk helped Picard stop him...even though they're all still in the Nexus.
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Old October 23 2012, 09:25 PM   #65
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Soran? No! He appeared when Kirk was retired.

The ideal character is Gary Mitchell, but the mystery is the spaceship on the planet, which seems to be old and Terran. I think the ship and the volcano are the key to identifying the villain.
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Old October 24 2012, 06:35 AM   #66
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Re: Speculation: Must the villain be Gary Mitchell, or... ?

I've been saying since we first saw Cumberbatch fighting Spock that I think he is playing a Klingon infiltrator. I can't imagine a movie called Into Darkness about a more personal-level villain like Khan or Gary Mitchell when the producers have said that the events of this film will thrust "everything" into a darker light a la Empire Strikes Back. Klingons are a galaxy-level threat.

Consider too that Benicio del Toro was originally supposed to have the role. Dude looks like a TOS era Klingon to begin with.
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Old October 24 2012, 06:37 AM   #67
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I'm calling shenanigans on this cover art. The word "Darkness" is misspelled in the title.
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Old October 24 2012, 01:50 PM   #68
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Whoever made the error seems to have fixed it. Here's the cover again straight from Diamond's site...

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I'm calling shenanigans on this cover art. The word "Darkness" is misspelled in the title.
The cover was raced into preparation for a presentation. Typos in titles in draft covers are quite common.
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Old October 24 2012, 03:24 PM   #70
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Whoever made the error seems to have fixed it. Here's the cover again straight from Diamond's site...

So, it's not a Pirate Story afterall? Arrrrrr....Darrkness
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Old October 24 2012, 03:37 PM   #71
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I've been saying since we first saw Cumberbatch fighting Spock that I think he is playing a Klingon infiltrator. I can't imagine a movie called Into Darkness about a more personal-level villain like Khan or Gary Mitchell when the producers have said that the events of this film will thrust "everything" into a darker light a la Empire Strikes Back. Klingons are a galaxy-level threat..
What do you think about this ship? There is a number. My guess it is a Earth Ship, and maybe an old ship.

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Old October 24 2012, 05:14 PM   #72
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It was described as a "space barge" by whoever it was that leaked the photos. It certainly doesn't look like a Starfleet ship.
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Old October 24 2012, 06:37 PM   #73
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It is difficult to know what this photo means, but a barge is used for the transport of cargo or people.
I donīt know, but it is looks like an old ship that has crashed on planet.
Ok, it is not necessarily the Botany Bay.
I would like to see a Gary Mitchell, but this ship, Quinto and Cumberbatch Fight look like Khan.
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Old October 25 2012, 07:25 AM   #74
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Re: Speculation: Must the villain be Gary Mitchell, or... ?

I asked Bob Orci via Twitter and he responded:
@cseremisi: is IDW's Star Trek Ongoing canon from Star Trek Into Darkness point of view? New interview will answer that.
So it seems that there is a new interview coming about Star Trek Ongoing. This is important because in issue #1 and #2 there was Gary Mitchell. So I really begin to think that we might get Mitchell after all, I don't see another issue of the comics that would conflict with the movie.
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Old October 25 2012, 12:05 PM   #75
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It was already asked and answered a few months ago. He did an interview where he was pushed into saying the comics were canon, and then he immediately retracted it in the comments.

I've only read the first two issues of Star Trek Ongoing, and I've only read the first two Starfleet Academy books. They were not very good. And I'm talking about the stories themselves, ignoring the myriad continuity errors and ignorance of Trek lore (comm badges and replicators in the 23rd century? Rape gangs roaming San Fransisco?) If this is supposed to be nuTrek's canon and somehow important (although I fail to see how being called "canon" gives them any more worth than the hundreds of non-canon Trek comics and books out there), then IMO those in charge haven't a clue what they're doing. Four novels were written and planned for release in 2010, by authors who know the Trek universe backwards and have written fantastic Treks in the past. Yet they were cancelled, seemingly in favour of this. The nuTrek Expanded Universe has been such a disappointment.

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