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Old October 22 2012, 05:50 PM   #91
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar

so is taking ship designs from jj trek and modifying them ok from a legal standpoint for a fan film? just curious to know
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Old October 22 2012, 05:59 PM   #92
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Compared to taking pre-existing ship designs and using them, unmodified, in fan films for years now? If anything they're in LESS of a legal bind, no?

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Old October 22 2012, 06:02 PM   #93
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just thought i read something about no jj trek stuff in fan films. i could easily be wrong, hope i am. i like these designs, they're rather awesome!
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Old October 22 2012, 06:05 PM   #94
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So the phaser mounts on these beauties seem to be analogous to the Kelvin, with TMP-style twin mounts supported by CIWS-type turrets under the square hatches of the saucer. Has any thought been given to the type of fire we'll be seeing in combat? Some linkage between what the Kelvin showed and the blue beams we'll ultimately see on the TOS Enterprise? Has tobais built these models with the turrets underneath as well? That'd be some fantastic detail on the final product!

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We take inspiration from all aspects of Star Trek and try to decidedly NOT look like the JJverse. So we have changed a lot on each ship. Sadly, we will NOT be using the Kelvin, since it is 100% JJverse. Originally it was to play a big part in the Battle of Axanar.

Although two of the ships are similar to the JJverse, they are also similar to a lot of ships from non-canon sources. There are only so many ways to build a TOS ship! The engines and the roll bar on the ships are 100% Tobias as are the Torpedo pods and shuttle bays on the smaller ships. We keep going about changing things to make sure they look Prime Universe.

As far as the Phasers, they will be 100% Prime Universe. So expect phasers to fire exactly like in TOS. The pulse Phasers of the USS Defiant are over 100 years away! And again, we aren't copying JJverse's short burst phasers.

This is firmly Prime Universe.

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Old October 22 2012, 08:36 PM   #95
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From what I have read, and my sources are not the best, so take this with a pound (or a few pounds) of iodinized salt, ... JJA Trek spin-offs WILL get 'cease and desist' orders. This is what they want to protect. So, like I said... giving this a lot of wiggle room since my sources are not the best... you might NOT want to use JJA Trek as a source.
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Old October 22 2012, 10:05 PM   #96
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I guess the point is we are not. Two of the ships are similar, but still different from JJ verse. I know CBS doesn't want JJ stuff so we made the changes and eliminated the Kelvin.

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Old October 22 2012, 10:41 PM   #97
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That is where we are safe with the Ares, she wasn't designed with JJtrek in mind. With the other ships I will leave that to Alec and Tobias.
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Old October 23 2012, 06:18 AM   #98
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar

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So the phaser mounts on these beauties seem to be analogous to the Kelvin, with TMP-style twin mounts supported by CIWS-type turrets under the square hatches of the saucer. Has any thought been given to the type of fire we'll be seeing in combat? Some linkage between what the Kelvin showed and the blue beams we'll ultimately see on the TOS Enterprise? Has tobais built these models with the turrets underneath as well? That'd be some fantastic detail on the final product!

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We take inspiration from all aspects of Star Trek and try to decidedly NOT look like the JJverse. So we have changed a lot on each ship. Sadly, we will NOT be using the Kelvin, since it is 100% JJverse. Originally it was to play a big part in the Battle of Axanar.

Although two of the ships are similar to the JJverse, they are also similar to a lot of ships from non-canon sources. There are only so many ways to build a TOS ship! The engines and the roll bar on the ships are 100% Tobias as are the Torpedo pods and shuttle bays on the smaller ships. We keep going about changing things to make sure they look Prime Universe.

As far as the Phasers, they will be 100% Prime Universe. So expect phasers to fire exactly like in TOS. The pulse Phasers of the USS Defiant are over 100 years away! And again, we aren't copying JJverse's short burst phasers.

This is firmly Prime Universe.

Alec
I still submit that there are THREE standard phaser options based on what we have seen in TOS and TOSfilm. There is STREAM - the long continuous phaser beam we've seen time and again. There is PULSE - the fast short pulsing phasers that we've seen from WOK. There is BURST - the single orb shaped phaser blast seen in a handful of episodes.
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Old October 23 2012, 06:31 AM   #99
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I still submit that there are THREE standard phaser options based on what we have seen in TOS and TOSfilm. There is STREAM - the long continuous phaser beam we've seen time and again. There is PULSE - the fast short pulsing phasers that we've seen from WOK. There is BURST - the single orb shaped phaser blast seen in a handful of episodes.
Good points! I guess we will ignore the WOK since that is much later. But what about BIURST as you say? What episodes is that in? I will check it out.

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Old October 23 2012, 09:27 AM   #100
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pssst....take a look at "Balance of Terror"...
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Old October 25 2012, 01:19 AM   #101
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I always felt that BURST was probably the most concussive of the three, where PULSE was similar, but more rattling on a ship's hull. Stream would be for slicing and pinpoint accuracy, no?
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Old October 25 2012, 10:17 PM   #102
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar

Loving the ships myself actually and can't wait to see them in action once the series starts up. A huge wait for sure but yet its great to see what the ships will look like on screen. Love the direction and agree they should look nothing like the JJ verse verisons.
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Old October 29 2012, 08:47 AM   #103
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That's pretty much how I see it, Jim.
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Old November 1 2012, 07:11 AM   #104
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Old November 1 2012, 07:43 PM   #105
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Whoa, that's sexy.

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