There's a trailer apparently..... - Page 9

Greg Cox · October 21 2012, 10:32 PM

Transwarp Drive wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

teacock wrote:

The adventure element was strongest in TOS I think. And damned good it was too.

Agreed. Indeed, some of the later shows could have used a bit more pep, IMHO.

(I'm looking at you, VOYAGER.)

Agreed about the abortion that was Voyager.

However, the other stuff described can be applied to any number of other 60's shows, there was an extra layer to Trek that transcended the aforementioned stuff..

True, but my point is that this "extra layer" and the "other stuff" are not mutually exclusive. If TOS could balance big ideas and vivid characters with plenty of cheap thrills, eye-popping SFX, fight scenes, romance, and explosions, why can't modern TREK?

I mean, it's not like the bridge wasn't blowing up every other episode or so. I'm sure Roddenbery would have thrown in a lot more bang for the buck if he could've afforded it way back when, so I'm not sure why people now seem to regard that "other stuff" as somehow suspect and beneath the standards of what they think TREK "should" be.

As opposed to what it actually was.

P.S. When did "populist" become a bad thing? As I've written before, TREK was never meant to be some elitist, cult thing intended only for the chosen few. It was a prime-time show on NBC, for pete's sake.

It's supposed to be smart, fun, mass-market entertainment with appeal to everyone, not just the fannish cognoscenti.

King Daniel · October 21 2012, 10:33 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

teacock wrote:

The adventure element was strongest in TOS I think. And damned good it was too.

Agreed. Indeed, some of the later shows could have used a bit more pep, IMHO.

(I'm looking at you, VOYAGER.)

Vest Janeway in "Macrocosm" had more pep than Kirk on PCP.

Greg Cox · October 21 2012, 11:02 PM

KingDaniel wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

teacock wrote:

The adventure element was strongest in TOS I think. And damned good it was too.

Agreed. Indeed, some of the later shows could have used a bit more pep, IMHO.

(I'm looking at you, VOYAGER.)

Vest Janeway in "Macrocosm" had more pep than Kirk on PCP.

A notable exception!

Kruezerman · October 22 2012, 03:21 AM

Then again we are comparing the series to the movies which are usually good action/adventure romps. With the series we have more time to tell a more complex story, while the movies are akin to a shot of good tequila. With exceptions of course.

teacake · October 22 2012, 06:11 AM

Kruezerman wrote:

Then again we are comparing the series to the movies which are usually good action/adventure romps. With the series we have more time to tell a more complex story, while the movies are akin to a shot of good tequila. With exceptions of course.

Yep, yep and yep. Movies have to grab you hard for 2 hours.

CommanderRaytas · October 22 2012, 04:46 PM

EyalM wrote:

^^ I do!
It makes sense, timing-wise, for a teaser. If not now, then probably with The Hobbit in December.

If that happens, I will be one happy little nerd.

Jackson_Roykirk · October 22 2012, 05:54 PM

CommanderRaytas wrote:

EyalM wrote:

^^ I do!
It makes sense, timing-wise, for a teaser. If not now, then probably with The Hobbit in December.

If that happens, I will be one happy little nerd.

I think its possible we may get a real trailer (not just a teaser) with one of the holiday season films -- Skyfall, Hobbit, etc.

My bet is Skyfall, considering the young-ish male demographic who will be seeing that film. This first episode of The Hobbit trilogy is rumored to be more "family friendly" than the LOTR films were, considering the source material (the first part of "The Hobbit" novel was a little lighter in tone than the LOTR books).

While the Hobbit demographic is also something Abrams is certainly courting, I think the demographic for Skyfall is more of an exact fit.

CommanderRaytas · October 23 2012, 07:29 AM

Let's hope you're right, because that would make me even happier...what with the shorter wait and all.

serenitytrek1 · October 23 2012, 07:01 PM

Guys check out the trailer for iron man 3....its amazing that trek 2013 comes out 2 weeks after this film.

I hope trek is the better film out of the 2...Am kind of growing tired of Marvel films.

Maybe a trailer for trek 2013 will be in skyfall

CommanderRaytas · October 24 2012, 07:31 AM

HERETIC!!!!

Honestly, I love the Avengers series! Can't wait to get a Thor sequel. Me and the other six billion fangirls Tom Hiddleston has.... *ahem*

Therin of Andor · October 26 2012, 07:36 AM

Transwarp Drive wrote:

Nah, he's a Kiwi, he genuinely believes that it's a product of NZ. They don't let a little thing like 'facts' or 'history' to disavow them of delusion.

Does no one read the publication dates behind the title page?

Deckerd · October 26 2012, 10:22 AM

I don't believe that. The Fellowship was premiered in London. No New Zealander, no matter how dense, would have seen that and thought "Oh London was chosen because it's uhhh something something something".

serenitytrek1 · October 26 2012, 03:13 PM

JJ has promised a trailer before the year runs out...this is fact,I read it on trekweb.

M'Sharak · October 26 2012, 06:41 PM

serenitytrek1 wrote:

JJ has promised a trailer before the year runs out...this is fact,I read it on trekweb.

It was Bob Orci, and it stopped short of being a promise.

Please stop spamming the thread.

Transwarp Drive · October 26 2012, 07:00 PM

Frau Blucher wrote:

I don't believe that. The Fellowship was premiered in London. No New Zealander, no matter how dense, would have seen that and thought "Oh London was chosen because it's uhhh something something something".

Then you don't have any idea of what a parochial and inward looking place the real NZ is. It isn't all mountains, lakes and empty beaches I assure you!

So a trailer by the end of the year then according to Trekweb? The Hobbit?

October 22 2012, 03:21 AM	#124
Kruezerman Commander Location: South Texas	Re: There's a trailer apparently..... Then again we are comparing the series to the movies which are usually good action/adventure romps. With the series we have more time to tell a more complex story, while the movies are akin to a shot of good tequila. With exceptions of course. __________________ Of course I don't want to eat something called a spittle pod. Go away. -Montgomery Scott-

October 23 2012, 07:29 AM	#128
CommanderRaytas Rear Admiral Location: Woobie, destroyer of worlds	Re: There's a trailer apparently..... Let's hope you're right, because that would make me even happier...what with the shorter wait and all. __________________ I do not kill with my gun. He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart. —The Gunslinger's Creed, The Dark Tower It was a nice day ... AND THEN EVIL CAME!— The Collected Works of Stephen King, condensed version

October 23 2012, 07:01 PM	#129
serenitytrek1 Lieutenant Commander	Re: There's a trailer apparently..... Guys check out the trailer for iron man 3....its amazing that trek 2013 comes out 2 weeks after this film. I hope trek is the better film out of the 2...Am kind of growing tired of Marvel films. Maybe a trailer for trek 2013 will be in skyfall

October 24 2012, 07:31 AM	#130
CommanderRaytas Rear Admiral Location: Woobie, destroyer of worlds	Re: There's a trailer apparently..... HERETIC!!!! Honestly, I love the Avengers series! Can't wait to get a Thor sequel. Me and the other six billion fangirls Tom Hiddleston has.... ahem __________________ I do not kill with my gun. He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart. —The Gunslinger's Creed, The Dark Tower It was a nice day ... AND THEN EVIL CAME!— The Collected Works of Stephen King, condensed version

October 26 2012, 10:22 AM	#132
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: There's a trailer apparently..... I don't believe that. The Fellowship was premiered in London. No New Zealander, no matter how dense, would have seen that and thought "Oh London was chosen because it's uhhh something something something". __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.

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October 26 2012, 03:13 PM	#133
serenitytrek1 Lieutenant Commander	Re: There's a trailer apparently..... JJ has promised a trailer before the year runs out...this is fact,I read it on trekweb.