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Old October 20 2012, 06:51 PM   #241
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Huh? I never defended the rapist dude one bit. I just said that his crime doesn't change the fact that, by what we learn in "Stigma", Polly was irresponsible with regards to her own health by willingly engaging, before the encounter turned ugly, in a potentially dangerous act without getting him screened.
From "Fusion":

T'POL: Mind meld?
TOLARIS: It's an ancient technique. It was abandoned centuries ago, but we've discovered that it can help us access our emotions.
T'POL: How does it work?
TOLARIS: I'd begin by creating a telepathic link. We would be able to share our memories, our thoughts. In essence, we would become one mind. It's quite an experience, but it is profoundly intimate. Are you prepared for that? If you'd like, we could try a more traditional form of guided meditation but it wouldn't be nearly as effective.
T'POL: Proceed.
It doesn't appear to me that Tolaris describe a "potentially dangerous act," so I wouldn't say that T'Pol willingly agreed to that. As far as she was told, it would be an "intimate" telepathic link involving mingled thoughts and memories.

So, to me, not only did Tolaris force her to continue despite her protest to stop, but he also misrepresented what he intended to do via mindmeld, i.e., using her memories to feed his creepy addiction to emotions.
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Old October 20 2012, 08:16 PM   #242
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^ See, that's where the contradictions come into play. "Stigma" makes it pretty clear that P'nar syndrome is universally known, feared and reviled, but how could that possibly be the case if melding is a forgotten technique? Which is itself a totally absurd idea, come to think of it.

So really, I guess I'm saying that both "Fusion" and "Stigma", while well-written and compelling eps on their own terms, should be considered non-canon.
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Old October 20 2012, 09:24 PM   #243
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a potentially dangerous act without getting him screened
Would a screening for this particular affliction have even been possible? As I understand it, it's a psychological disorder, not a physical aliment.

The psychological disorder is transmitted through the mind meld.



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Old October 20 2012, 10:07 PM   #244
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^ With Vulcans, there's often a blurry line between the two. (See also VOY, "Flasback".) "Stigma" suggests that it shows up in DNA scans...
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Old October 20 2012, 11:18 PM   #245
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Huh? I never defended the rapist dude one bit. I just said that his crime doesn't change the fact that, by what we learn in "Stigma", Polly was irresponsible with regards to her own health by willingly engaging, before the encounter turned ugly, in a potentially dangerous act without getting him screened.
Gaith! Stop trying to make Polly happen! It's not going to happen!
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Old October 20 2012, 11:19 PM   #246
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^ See, that's where the contradictions come into play. "Stigma" makes it pretty clear that P'nar syndrome is universally known, feared and reviled, but how could that possibly be the case if melding is a forgotten technique? Which is itself a totally absurd idea, come to think of it.

So really, I guess I'm saying that both "Fusion" and "Stigma", while well-written and compelling eps on their own terms, should be considered non-canon.
Continuity wasn't one of Enterprise's strong points. They couldn't even keep their own stuff straight, nonetheless the stuff from the other four series.
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Old October 20 2012, 11:56 PM   #247
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^ True.

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Gaith! Stop trying to make Polly happen! It's not going to happen!
It has already happened... in my corazon.


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Old October 21 2012, 12:07 AM   #248
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I bet she whispers that in your ear.
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Old October 21 2012, 12:13 AM   #249
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I dunno if it's the long hair or the 60's TOS outfit, but something there just doesn't suit her and it's not Polly.
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Old October 21 2012, 12:30 AM   #250
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I think the MU look is much better on her in the NX-01 jumpsuits.



And oh good I get to relevantly post my favorite MU pic..

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Old October 21 2012, 12:39 AM   #251
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^ See, that's where the contradictions come into play. "Stigma" makes it pretty clear that P'nar syndrome is universally known, feared and reviled, but how could that possibly be the case if melding is a forgotten technique? Which is itself a totally absurd idea, come to think of it.

So really, I guess I'm saying that both "Fusion" and "Stigma", while well-written and compelling eps on their own terms, should be considered non-canon.
Continuity wasn't one of Enterprise's strong points. They couldn't even keep their own stuff straight, nonetheless the stuff from the other four series.
Are you sure it wasn't fanon that ENT couldn't keep straight?
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Old October 21 2012, 12:39 AM   #252
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I liked the MU uniforms. They actually looked more... military like. Though the midriff cutting feature on the female uniforms, however visually appealing, was silly at best.
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Old October 21 2012, 12:40 AM   #253
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Meh, the MU is inherently silly, so that doesn't bother me.
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Old October 21 2012, 12:51 AM   #254
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I bet she whispers that in your ear.
SHE TOLD YOU?!
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Old October 21 2012, 12:55 AM   #255
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I bet she whispers that in your ear.
SHE TOLD YOU?!
I thought she only whispered that to me.
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