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Old October 19 2012, 04:53 AM   #46
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Honestly, I don't see why there has to be an organized association with basic principals. I'm sure the intentions are in the right place. That being said I've found that once you try to put too much process, organization, a name and principals on something as simple as sharing resources than it becomes something entirely different than perhaps originally intended.

Principals become by-laws. The initial members become a governing board. Membership becomes dependent on certain criteria. Exclusivity rules. And so on and so on.

I agree with Maurice. There's an unpleasant tone that's emerged. And I'll add that there's also far too much pretention. Best of luck to all.
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Old October 19 2012, 05:20 AM   #47
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Attacking me over and over isn't the way to win me over.
Once again, I will ask - Where are these comments that are outright attacks against you?

I asked you a question and was open to working with audio dramas, but YOU ruined it by attacking me.
On the contrary. Your posts have been snarling, dismissive and rude. If you were ever open to working with audio dramas, you certainly didn't demonstrate it in this thread.

My record is pretty clear with the founding productions, all of whom I have helped and asked nothing in return.
Well if you want to fall on your sword like that good luck.

You have only proven to be just one more guy who attacks people on the Internet. Good luck. We will stick to film productions.
Finally! An answer. So you are the one who will unilaterally made these kinds of decisions for the association. That's good to know. Something tells me you won't be lasting very long there with such an arrogant, closed-minded approach to these things.

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I agree with Maurice. There's an unpleasant tone that's emerged. And I'll add that there's also far too much pretention. Best of luck to all.
Agreed. The damn thing hasn't even started and its already just for the cool kids. Pass.
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Old October 19 2012, 05:44 AM   #48
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And so being a jerk to people who are actually doing something makes you feel good?

Ho hum.

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Old October 19 2012, 05:46 AM   #49
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BTW guys, if you have news about your projects, by all means shoot an email to or PM me and I'll post it.
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Old October 19 2012, 05:47 AM   #50
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Hey Greg, where is that moderation you keep talking about? This thread has run its course. We know who wants to work with others and who wants to just cause problems.


We are done. Please close this thread.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:05 AM   #51
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Shit, I missed that while posting. Hang on, sport.

I just got the notification.

Edit: NO need to close a thread if select people would act like adults and not children. I've already warned one, and have no problem with warning others if they can't be civil.

P.S. Linnear, instead of mini-modding, which I *HATE*, next time do a post notify like another poster in here did. That gets our attention straightaway. Neither of us is on here all the time and sometimes behaviors happen while we're afk. And it would be helpful if all posters, if they see someone acting out, refrain from reacting to the behavior and wait for us to come and mop up.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:36 AM   #52
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Since some posters have proven incapable of having an adult conversation, if anyone is interested in working with Star Trek Film Makers Association, please email me at alec@propworx.com or find me on Facebook. I don't want to waste time getting trolled on here.

And T'Boo, I don't even know what mini-modding is. I don't spend a lot of time on forums, which is why I guess I am shocked at the lack of civility. But I thank you for your intervention and apologize if I broke procedure.

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Old October 19 2012, 02:42 PM   #53
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Would audio dramas be welcome in this collective? I've done some work for Darker Projects' Star Trek shows, and have had a story in mind for a few years that would create an opportunity for some of our fellow fan film characters to cameo throughout the history of Trek.

I'd basically resigned myself to the notion of reaching out to each of the actors we want directly, but if the infrastructure is in place to facilitate it, would we be welcome or is this strictly for video projects?
I've worked on both audio dramas and fan films. One of the "fan" audio dramas I did is being turned into a short animated film right now (Masters of the Universe: The Dark Tower). Personally, i feel that if it isn't being shown in a visual format, it can't really be called a "film", so that would technically exclude audio dramas from being part of a fan film co-operative. However, I do think that it is a good idea to try to use actors, musicians, writers, etc, from fan film groups when possible.

doubleohAHHHHHH!!!!!: Perhaps you should create a Star Trek (Fan) Audio Drama Association?
It could be a Star Trek Fan Drama Association (that would also include live theater)
Might I suggest 'Star Trek Fan Production Association' with divisions for film, audio, animation productions etc.

I have done something similar in categorizing name conventions Star Trek forums I have created (trekunited, etc..)
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Old October 19 2012, 03:19 PM   #54
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This is supposed to be a friendly association that can support other groups and each other. Nothing more, nothing less. I understand where everyone's coming from here, but I think folks are just getting frustrated with each each other and the points they're trying to make simply aren't coming across well.

We all want to be friends here okay, so may I suggest we start over with a clean slate.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:21 PM   #55
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This is supposed to be a friendly association that can support other groups and each other. Nothing more, nothing less. I understand where everyone's coming from here, but I think folks are just getting frustrated with each each other and the points they're trying to make simply aren't coming across well.

We all want to be friends here okay, so may I suggest we start over with a clean slate.
Amen.
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Old October 19 2012, 08:07 PM   #56
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Sounds like people are discussing something similar to Star Wars: Fanworks (which was created for audio drama producers). Not so much an organization, as I understand it--could be wrong, as a central place for promotion, sharing info, and things like that. I don't see why something like that, instead of an association/organization, handle ST FF and FA wouldn't be a better fit.

Just my 2-cents. That and $4 will get you a coffee.
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Old October 20 2012, 06:52 AM   #57
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Might I suggest 'Star Trek Fan Production Association' with divisions for film, audio, animation productions etc.
That is a great suggestion!
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Old October 20 2012, 03:24 PM   #58
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This is supposed to be a friendly association that can support other groups and each other. Nothing more, nothing less. I understand where everyone's coming from here, but I think folks are just getting frustrated with each each other and the points they're trying to make simply aren't coming across well.

We all want to be friends here okay, so may I suggest we start over with a clean slate.

Exactly Nick. And I would be say it would be nice f people actually signed their posts. So easy to be a troll when you are anonymous. It would be nice to get to know everyone by their actual names.

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Old October 20 2012, 07:09 PM   #59
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Double post. (sorry)
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Old October 20 2012, 07:09 PM   #60
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This is supposed to be a friendly association that can support other groups and each other. Nothing more, nothing less. I understand where everyone's coming from here, but I think folks are just getting frustrated with each each other and the points they're trying to make simply aren't coming across well.

We all want to be friends here okay, so may I suggest we start over with a clean slate.

Exactly Nick. And I would be say it would be nice f people actually signed their posts. So easy to be a troll when you are anonymous. It would be nice to get to know everyone by their actual names.

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Might I suggest 'Star Trek Fan Production Association' with divisions for film, audio, animation productions etc.
That is a great suggestion!
This is basically what I was getting at before Linnear's meltdown. An all inclusive cooperative that everyone could contribute to and also benefit from. Its easy to see the benefits and why it would be a good thing to include everyone; I'm just not clear on why we wouldn't want to include everyone.
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