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Old October 7 2012, 01:08 PM   #16
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Re: Different Generations uniforms?

Opps! I thought the Worf figure was also in the un-used film verison.
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Old October 7 2012, 01:25 PM   #17
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I'm none too keen on the unused outfits. I don't like the collar. I think they would have looked better if the collar was an undershirt as opposed to part of the tunic.
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Old October 7 2012, 06:39 PM   #18
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I agree on the collar, but love the TOS rank stripes and TWOK esque tunic.
As it stands, I like seeing the series uniforms in GEN, and transition into what was then the next iteration.
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Old October 7 2012, 07:16 PM   #19
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I'm none too keen on the unused outfits. I don't like the collar. I think they would have looked better if the collar was an undershirt as opposed to part of the tunic.
Honestly I would have preferred if the collar was black like the shoulder area.
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Old October 7 2012, 08:53 PM   #20
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I thought that the unused GEN uniforms looked awful. The chest flap, the weird collar design... meh. I don't think that this was an improvement over the TNG series uniforms. I am glad that the decision was made to axe them and go with a mixture of TNG and DS9 uniforms, instead. Plus, had these new uniforms been implemented, we likely wouldn't have gotten the amazing gray-shouldered style introduced in the next film.
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Old October 8 2012, 03:56 PM   #21
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Don't care for the revised uniforms. Unlike the FC uniforms, which were a real change, these look like a half-hearted attempt do something "different" for the film just for the sake of being different. Yet they are still, essentially, the TNG uniforms just with some minor tweaks.

Personally, though, the TNG series uniforms are my second-favorite Trek uniform design -- after the TWOK-era film uniforms -- and I wish they'd just stuck with them. I know the FC variant is very popular around here, but I prefer my Trek uniforms to have more color in them than that. Hence my preference for the TWOK era with its bold maroon jacket, and the TNG uniforms with their distinctive colors, over either the FC or DS9 uniforms.
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Old October 11 2012, 11:04 PM   #22
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i bet the guy who does starfleets budget messed up
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Old October 12 2012, 09:01 PM   #23
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I thought that the unused GEN uniforms looked awful.
Agreed. I've often thought (without any foundation and very likely unfairly) the "We didn't want to introduce too many things at once" thing was just a polite excuse that wouldn't offend the costume designer in the same way "We realised they were awful" would.
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Old October 12 2012, 11:24 PM   #24
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Re: Different Generations uniforms?

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Are Worf's trousers slightly different at the bottom to the other two Generations figures or is that just a trick of the light?
Yes. That's a Season Three Worf figure, and the pants had a tiny bit of the chest-colour as trim.
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Old October 12 2012, 11:39 PM   #25
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I think that's silly. Another one of those..."The Star Trek fans are too stupid or too demanding to accept changes.." moments.
According to Richard Arnold's annual convention presentations of day, uniform changes are also pushed by the licensees. Playmates Toys had done tens and tens of action figures by the time of "Generations" and had won the new tender to do tie-ins for the movie. If Paramount had used the same design as the TNG series uniforms for "Generations", the only all-new figures that collectors would cherrypick from the set would have been the two Klingon women, Soren, Kirk, Chekov and Scotty, plus Worf in holodeck outfit and Kirk in orbital diving suit, leaving the key seven 24th century Starfleet characters of Picard, Riker, Data, et al hanging on the pegs.

When a uniform push is not enough, or not successful, the action figures undergo a change of scale. For "First Contact", of course, Playmates did both.
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Old October 13 2012, 12:17 AM   #26
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I am one of the few think the TNG style uniform is perfect. I have never liked the gray version. I never really warmed up to the DS9 version either and wish they'd used the TNG one.

I suppose it'll be interesting, when we reach TNG season 7, to see how the uniforms/sets look in HD. That'll tell us if that whole "too worn down" thing is an excuse. Which I don't really buy since they redid the bridge to begin with.
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Old October 13 2012, 03:59 AM   #27
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I believe the aborted uniforms were used for one day of filming, infact possibly the first day of filming (at least the first where someone in a 24th century Starfleet uniform appeared), see below



All though the quality is horrendous in places, you can clearly see La Forge wearing the uniform 17 seconds in. One could theorise that this particular scene was cut because they never went back and reshot it with Geordi in the normal uniform.

Is it just the poor quality is Riker wearing a Gold uniform there?
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Old October 16 2012, 07:45 PM   #28
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^ Nah, that's red. Just poor VHS quality.
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Old October 16 2012, 07:53 PM   #29
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So where are the photos of the actors trying on these new unused costumes?
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