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Old October 15 2012, 08:20 PM   #76
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Sounded like that when they were planning on the hood of the car, that they had tried a few other directions and met with some dead ends/swarms.

RL reason, of course, was that the prision wasn't really right there, it was there as a foreshadowing device for the viewers. It was on a hill in Season 2 if I remember correctly, and kinda at the bottom of a hill, hidden, in this season...
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Old October 15 2012, 08:33 PM   #77
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At the end of last season, didn't the camera pull way up from Rick's group, then pan over a bit to reveal the prison? If so, how is it that 6 months later they're only now finding this relatively nearby location?
Because they've been walking in a circle, around it all this time. When they pull out the map on the car, and start talking about where to go, they state that they've been going in circles, and back tracking. The herds are moving, and they can't just go in a straight line. Plus, they often tend to stick to roads, and this prison looked like it was out in the middle of no where. They just finally happened to come up on it this time.

What I wonder though, is why it didn't show on the map? If it were me, and I were looking at places to go, I'd study the map and look for secure facilities listed on it. Not sure if they put prisons on maps though.
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Old October 15 2012, 08:51 PM   #78
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^^^ I thought it was amusing when Carl takes the dog food and is ready to eat it and Rick stops him. Apparently Rick draws a line in the sand not with his son executing zombies but eating Alpo - now that simply going to far. LOL
My take on that scene was that Rick was sick to death of eating dog food that seeing Carl open it up pissed him off so he chucked it. He didn't want to see or smell that shit any longer.

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I'm sure I'm alone in this, but I actually found the season 2 premiere (set on the highway) to be a lot more suspenseful.

I suppose there's just something about the threat of a zombie attack I find to be a lot more exciting than the actual killing of them.

Here, it was basically just a nonstop parade of zombie killing from the start, which made the whole episode feel a bit cold and mechanical to me, like I was watching characters in a videogame or something.
I do agree that it got tedious and too much like a videogame but I still enjoyed it. I liked seeing how efficient a zombie killing machine that the group became. As long as every episode isn't like this I don't mind it.
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Old October 15 2012, 09:00 PM   #79
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^^^ I thought it was amusing when Carl takes the dog food and is ready to eat it and Rick stops him. Apparently Rick draws a line in the sand not with his son executing zombies but eating Alpo - now that simply going to far. LOL
My take on that scene was that Rick was sick to death of eating dog food that seeing Carl open it up pissed him off so he chucked it. He didn't want to see or smell that shit any longer.
Mine was that while things were bad, he refused to believe they'd sunk low enough that they had to start eating dog food to survive.
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Old October 15 2012, 09:22 PM   #80
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Old October 15 2012, 09:23 PM   #81
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Wouldn't surprise me if they'd seen it on the map, but they simply dismissed it as a tough place to potentially break into versus all the houses in the area (which may have been the right thing to do, since they've obviously survived all winter and don't seem much worse for wear). The dialogue doesn't strictly rule that out: Daryl spots it, Rick walks up, and then the light goes off in his head. Could also be that on seeing the gated field that they realized the clearing it was do-able, and that getting from there into the prison was a similarly achievable goal.

I loved this opener - it had plenty of zombie smashing, though one reviewer pointed out that it may signify even more episodes without so much as a moan from any undead. I do also question the tactics, but I figure the writers hadn't fully realized what the prison would look like on TV. In the comics, the prison was much larger (even what we see in this opener is visibly smaller than the prison visual from last season) and aside from the tall fences, it was more walls than anything else. They may have visualized it differently than what we saw.

That said, it should have been easy to take care of the walkers at the fence and then send scouts into each area. Once a group of zombies was discovered, you'd retreat and agree on the best way to taunt them, even a few at a time, back to the fence and take care of them there until the area was clear. However, I can imagine that the writers would want to skip to the insid of the prison right away and thus skipped over some of this (and show our heroes as actual zombie-killin' HEROES for a change, with an appropriate undead bloodbath).

I can't remember if they figured out how some of the zombies had actually got that way without being bitten? There were a couple security guards last year who turned without having dental impressions made upon them, and now there are some prison guards who apparently zombified that way too. Perhaps they had been lightly bitten somewhere else, armored up, and died later? Opted out with poison? Starved, as several inmates seem to have done? We'll probably never know. Still sucks to have your face ripped off with your helmet later, though.

As for the characters, I loved 'em the first season and their unending bickering on the farm last year got grating really fast. As expensive as it is, this show needs to have more kinetic force behind it to keep it going. We all *like* these characters, and we arguably still do; we just want them to do more so we can continue sympathizing with them.

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Old October 15 2012, 09:55 PM   #82
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As for the characters, I loved 'em the first season and their unending bickering on the farm last year got grating really fast. As expensive as it is, this show needs to have more kinetic force behind it to keep it going. We all *like* these characters, and we arguably still do; we just want them to do more so we can continue sympathizing with them.

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Yeah the basic character conflicts and storylines I thought were great last season; it was just the fact they drug on so damn long.
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Old October 15 2012, 09:59 PM   #83
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I can't remember if they figured out how some of the zombies had actually got that way without being bitten?
yeah, they figured out last season that if you die, you turn, bite or not. Hence Lori's worry about having a zombie fetus in her if her baby dies in vitro during last night's episode.
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Old October 15 2012, 10:52 PM   #84
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Well, this wasn't the best episode ever, but I enjoyed it. There was definitely enough zombie-killing mayhem to last me a while. Let's get back to the plot and characterization now. Not that there was a total lack of drama. I loved Lori's talk with Herschel about a zombie fetus and the relationship between Andrea and the new zombie-bondage woman was intriguing. And I cracked up at Carol flirting with Daryl. And I was shocked that Herschel got bitten. I guess he won't be around much longer.

I wonder if there will be anything as compelling as the search for Carol's daughter to drive the storyline this year.

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Old October 15 2012, 10:57 PM   #85
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That'd be a pretty bad way to go...

Re: Polearms, it be a great thing to do, but arguably it would be a problem if the blade would get stuck in a zombie head as they often are, allowing others to get within munching range. It has merit, but I think the group hasn't had that much time to think about it, create the weapons (even by tying a knife to a bamboo pole) and training themselves accordingly. We see they've become adept enough at taking out small groups and running away when needed.

On the plus side, killing zombies through fences came to them pretty quickly. "In the comics...":



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Old October 15 2012, 11:19 PM   #86
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The prison seems so obvious. And you would think Rick would know where all the prisons in the area were. On talking dead the producer said no one had gotten to it yet because of the herds of zombies blocking thier way. But I was thinking they wouldn't have been ready to take it the last time we saw them anyways. I can't imagine them being enough of a team to be able to take it or imagine them being desparate enough. They've given up any hope now of any kind of normal existence.
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Old October 16 2012, 12:36 AM   #87
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The guard up high, where Darryl settled himself? He killed himself, which meant he was alive and didn't zombify, right?
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Old October 16 2012, 02:11 AM   #88
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Not bad for the most hated show on the internet.

Re polearms: I did notice Glen carrying a long handled sidewalk scraper in one shot. So they've at least thought of it.
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Old October 16 2012, 02:19 AM   #89
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The guard up high, where Darryl settled himself? He killed himself, which meant he was alive and didn't zombify, right?
If you're talking about the same guard Rick got the keys off of, there was blood spatter on the window behind his head, indicating a headshot. Pistol was in his hand, more than that, we have no way to tell if he was killed before or after becoming a zombie.
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Old October 16 2012, 03:44 AM   #90
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Yeah the basic character conflicts and storylines I thought were great last season; it was just the fact they drug on so damn long.
I thought the same thing when I watched the first 6 or 7 episodes when they aired on TV, but I just watched the whole season over the last couple weeks on Netflix, and I found it didn't feel quite as dragged out when I was watching 2 or 3 episodes at a time.

I thought it was a really good. Not the best episode of the show, but I definitely enjoyed it. The zombie killing did go on for quite a while, but I thought they still managed to make it interesting enough and had enough character moments in there that they were able to keep me interested.
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I wonder if there will be anything as compelling as the search for Carol's daughter to drive the storyline this year.
As for the main arc of the season, based on what was shown in the previews and what little bit I know about the comics, it should be a very interesting season.
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