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Old October 15 2012, 06:49 AM   #286
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An origin in the 80s says that he was drunk, fell over board, woke up on an island, six months later some hippies show up to collect those pot harvest, and he takes their boat.

Since then things got darker.

TOTALWAR with a heroin cartel for control of the island written by Andie Diggle a couple years back... hey? Isn't the bodyguard calling himself Diggle? But that book has been rebooted at least three times since then.
The Diggle character was created from a character in that Year One story with a similar job and backstory.
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Old October 15 2012, 05:34 PM   #287
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Nah, it's the Green Something. After Green Hornet and Green Lantern you can't call a show Green Arrow without confusing big parts of the audience, the titles are too similar.
"Hey hon, there's a show about that green guy coming on."
"Who?"
"You know he had a ring and a car and an Asian butler."
"Oh yeah, the one with Seth Green."

Poor "general population", we think so lowly of them. I'm not sure if it's not true though.
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Old October 15 2012, 08:05 PM   #288
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"Hey hon, there's a show about that green guy coming on."
"You mean Lou Ferrigno?"
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Old October 15 2012, 08:52 PM   #289
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Nah, it's the Green Something. After Green Hornet and Green Lantern you can't call a show Green Arrow without confusing big parts of the audience, the titles are too similar.
"Hey hon, there's a show about that green guy coming on."
"Who?"
"You know he had a ring and a car and an Asian butler."
"Oh yeah, the one with Seth Green."

Poor "general population", we think so lowly of them. I'm not sure if it's not true though.
It's true. My next-door neighbor rented GREEN LANTERN expecting a goofy superhero comedy with Seth Rogen. Boy, was he confused. And only yesterday I heard this from an acquaintance:

"You mean the X-MEN and AVENGERS aren't the same thing?"

And, just this morning, I ran into someone who confused BABYLON-5 with BATTLESTAR GALACTICA . . . .

We assume everybody knows this stuff, because it's burned into our brains, but most of the world isn't paying that much attention to it.
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Old October 15 2012, 09:22 PM   #290
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It's true. My next-door neighbor rented GREEN LANTERN expecting a goofy superhero comedy with Seth Rogen. Boy, was he confused. And only yesterday I heard this from an acquaintance:

"You mean the X-MEN and AVENGERS aren't the same thing?"

And, just this morning, I ran into someone who confused BABYLON-5 with BATTLESTAR GALACTICA . . . .

We assume everybody knows this stuff, because it's burned into our brains, but most of the world isn't paying that much attention to it.
I've encountered office workers who also confused Hornet & Lantern. To them they were both comic book characters and therefore the same thing...till they watched and whatever expectation they went in with was 180 different from what they had in front of them.

I've heard of confusing Star Wars and Star Trek all the time.
I feel if you're in tune enough to even know of Babylon 5 you shouldn't be confusing it with BSG.

I don't see how anyone confuses X-Men and Avengers though. There isn't even a similar naming convention or type of characters, at least as seen in the movies for the GA to confuse.
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Old October 15 2012, 09:23 PM   #291
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Well after the war, Captain America is trying to make the X-Men and the Avengers he same thing.

Your friend might just be prophetic?

Except for the X-squads still being hunted from one side of the country to the other like dogs.
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Old October 15 2012, 09:49 PM   #292
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I don't see how anyone confuses X-Men and Avengers though. There isn't even a similar naming convention or type of characters, at least as seen in the movies for the GA to confuse.
To anyone who doesn't read comic books and doesn't really care, they're both "that movie where a bunch of superheroes team up."

"Based on Marvel Comics, right?"

So calling the new show ARROW was probably a shrewd move . . . .
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Old October 15 2012, 10:29 PM   #293
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It's true. My next-door neighbor rented GREEN LANTERN expecting a goofy superhero comedy with Seth Rogen. Boy, was he confused.
Yes, he wanted the goofy superhero comedy with Ryan Reynolds.

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Old October 15 2012, 10:59 PM   #294
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I don't see how anyone confuses X-Men and Avengers though. There isn't even a similar naming convention or type of characters, at least as seen in the movies for the GA to confuse.
To anyone who doesn't read comic books and doesn't really care, they're both "that movie where a bunch of superheroes team up."

"Based on Marvel Comics, right?"

So calling the new show ARROW was probably a shrewd move . . . .
That would mean they also get confused by having Fantastic Four in the mix and any inevitable Justice League film.
I say inevitable, I hope I'm right in using that word and not just being optimistic.

I really just don't see confusing X-Men and Avengers.
I accept it happened in a one off anecdotal moment but don't think it's a widespread issue. Not in the way this line of discussion was brought up with the Green Arrow, Green Lantern or Green Hornet way.
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Old October 15 2012, 11:09 PM   #295
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My flatmate asked me if Spider-Man was going to be in the Justice league once.

Long ago, after it became clear that my girlfriend couldn't tell the difference between even starwars and star trek... I just started calling "everything" SPACESHIPS a little manically repeatedly, instead of trying to explain the difference with a lot of different words, just saying the same word over and over again until she went away, but when someone actually uses the word "dissasociate" to express how they deal with conversations with you, they don't deserve a lot of effot, to stress that I would put the garbage out after the reruns of Farscape had finished.
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Old October 15 2012, 11:11 PM   #296
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I don't see how anyone confuses X-Men and Avengers though. There isn't even a similar naming convention or type of characters, at least as seen in the movies for the GA to confuse.
To anyone who doesn't read comic books and doesn't really care, they're both "that movie where a bunch of superheroes team up."

"Based on Marvel Comics, right?"

So calling the new show ARROW was probably a shrewd move . . . .
That would mean they also get confused by having Fantastic Four in the mix and any inevitable Justice League film.
I say inevitable, I hope I'm right in using that word and not just being optimistic.

I really just don't see confusing X-Men and Avengers.
I accept it happened in a one off anecdotal moment but don't think it's a widespread issue. Not in the way this line of discussion was brought up with the Green Arrow, Green Lantern or Green Hornet way.
I don't know. To a lot of people, all that crazy superhero comic book stuff is the same . . . .

Like I said, I bumped into the Babylon-5/Battlestar Galactica mixup just this morning. Hey, it's spaceship show that sounds like "Babylon" or "Battlestar" or something . . . .
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Old October 16 2012, 12:05 AM   #297
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I accept it happened in a one off anecdotal moment but don't think it's a widespread issue. Not in the way this line of discussion was brought up with the Green Arrow, Green Lantern or Green Hornet way.
That's because it's not a widespread issue, especially for the audiences actually watching these shows/movies. For some reason, a lot of nerds need to feel that their interests are strange and mysterious to the "common man on the street," and if it's something they know a modicum about, clearly it must be foreign and alien to the rest of the cosmos. Especially if your 60-year-old mom is the only girl you talk to. Worse, if it's something they don't much about, it's completely and utterly foreign and alien to the world at large. (Case in point: If the electricity goes out, mankind loses the knowledge of how to bake bread.)

The real reason for the name of the show is as I pointed out earlier in the thread. They just love one word titles for whatever bizarre reason. Somehow it's "cool." Smallville did it with its title and episode titles. Online gaming groups do it. 'Cause it's hip and edgy, yo.
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Old October 16 2012, 12:48 AM   #298
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To anyone who doesn't read comic books and doesn't really care, they're both "that movie where a bunch of superheroes team up."

"Based on Marvel Comics, right?"

So calling the new show ARROW was probably a shrewd move . . . .
That would mean they also get confused by having Fantastic Four in the mix and any inevitable Justice League film.
I say inevitable, I hope I'm right in using that word and not just being optimistic.

I really just don't see confusing X-Men and Avengers.
I accept it happened in a one off anecdotal moment but don't think it's a widespread issue. Not in the way this line of discussion was brought up with the Green Arrow, Green Lantern or Green Hornet way.
I don't know. To a lot of people, all that crazy superhero comic book stuff is the same . . . .

Like I said, I bumped into the Babylon-5/Battlestar Galactica mixup just this morning. Hey, it's spaceship show that sounds like "Babylon" or "Battlestar" or something . . . .
I'm even surprised that they knew about Babylon 5.
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Old October 16 2012, 01:35 AM   #299
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So I watched the pilot at CW.com last night and mostly enjoyed it. I came in blind, not having seen any previews or online spoilers, or even having had entered this thread before seeing it, which was refreshing. I'll be back for more.
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Old October 16 2012, 03:05 AM   #300
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I can't remember for sure, but I think I did read an interview where admitted they wanted to go with a less comic booky sounding name.
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