CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films - Page 4

GSchnitzer · October 14 2012, 11:08 PM

I think this thread has pretty much run its course. I think those productions willing to share have shared; those who aren't, won't.

Getting ready to lock the thread down.

doubleohfive · October 15 2012, 02:54 AM

Potemkin_Prod · October 15 2012, 03:12 AM

I fail to see the need for locking the thread. No one has gotten their feelings hurt.

doubleohfive · October 15 2012, 03:18 AM

To be honest, I agree with you. The info andreich posted is something I think would be viewed as highly useful to other fans who might read this thread and may wish to launch their won fan films. (Again, thanks so much for sharing!) Closing this thread would basically relegate that information to the bottom of the forum and eventually pruning it form the site, which would be rather unfortunate I think.

Why not just let the conversation trail off as the rest of most of the threads here do instead of locking it off so early?

MikeH92467 · October 15 2012, 10:53 AM

I think it's interesting that good faith efforts kept this thread from degenerating into a nasty mess. There's a lot of useful information and I think everyone deserves credit for being willing to share information on this very important subject.

Captain Atkin · October 15 2012, 01:55 PM

I would keep the thread open, but just change the title of the thread to something more positive, if possible.

Linnear · October 15 2012, 03:23 PM

Captain Atkin wrote:

I would keep the thread open, but just change the title of the thread to something more positive, if possible.

Agree with Atkin here. Keep the thread open for questions in the future, but do change the title. OR ELSE just cut and paste Patty's useful info into a new thread, since that is what is really relevant and useful.

Alec

Maurice · October 16 2012, 08:08 AM

Honestly, Greg, there's no need to lock this down. Sure, there's been a fair amount of activity in this discussion in recent days, but not everyone reads the board ever day, and locking the thread when there's no compelling reason to cuts off those people from an opportunity to participate.

GSchnitzer · October 16 2012, 12:50 PM

I was getting offline complaints to the moderator about the tone and direction the thread was taking. If folks continue to be respectful of willingness to share (or not share) it can stay open. (I did change the title a bit and board members' suggestion.

Best to everyone.

T'Bonz · October 16 2012, 09:42 PM

No need to shut it down. If people misbehave, that's why we have a warning button, even though I'm slow to use it in here.

Tom · October 16 2012, 11:55 PM

There is always the airlock..

Linnear · October 17 2012, 06:43 AM

Yes, we certainly don't want a difference of opinion, do we?

Potemkin_Prod wrote:

No one has gotten their feelings hurt.

So if Potemkin says no one got their feelings hurt, and that is who my difference of opinion was with, who would complain Greg?

No one was called names, no one was rude. Seems like a little manufactured drama.

We should be talking about our fan films conforming to CBS standards and what those standards are. Patty has been good enough to post a lengthy explanation, and I have had a great conversation with Craig Sheeler from Star Trek: Secret Voyage about CBS. There is a lot of information to share and that is where this conversation should be focused.

Alec

Linnear · October 17 2012, 04:30 PM

BTW, Phase II, Intrepid, Ajax, Secret Voyage and Axanar all got together and discussed a Star Trek Film Makers Association. We discussed how we could all work together, share information, assets and talent, and promote each other. I know I have already made introductions for Craig of Secret Voyage and Jim Bray of Ajax, that have helped them both with their productions. I worked with the great guys at Ajax and they have offered use of their sets as I have done the same for others.

If we all work together, we can help each other and achieve great things!

Alec

MikeH92467 · October 17 2012, 05:32 PM

This association strikes me as an excellent idea. Perhaps the biggest obstacle to getting more productions and stories out is the need to reinvent the wheel when it comes to standing sets. Putting together a video production is still going to be an incredible amount of work, but if you don't have to build sets and technical advice and assistance are available, it would make the job a bit less imposing. Feel free to drop me a PM if there are any further developments.

JimTheBuilder · October 17 2012, 05:49 PM

Yes, it was HUGE of Patty to post such enriching information!

As far as "The Association", I'm VERY excited about the potential we're about to tap...as I said at our SKYPE meeting..."A high tide raises all boats." We can learn from each other, assist each other and all that we gain from coming together is, frankly, immeasurable!

Knowing what we can/cannot, should/shouldn't do is priceless...it pushes us in new directions and can only help us make better films.

October 14 2012, 11:08 PM	#46
GSchnitzer Co-Executive Producer Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA, Terra	Re: Paramount IP enforcement, has it hit any productions yet? I think this thread has pretty much run its course. I think those productions willing to share have shared; those who aren't, won't. Getting ready to lock the thread down. __________________ Greg Schnitzer Co-Executive Producer Star Trek Phase II http://www.startrekphase2.com http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3348883/

October 15 2012, 02:54 AM	#47
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: Paramount IP enforcement, has it hit any productions yet? __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

October 15 2012, 03:12 AM	#48
Potemkin_Prod Fleet Captain Location: Southwest Georgia	Re: Paramount IP enforcement, has it hit any productions yet? I fail to see the need for locking the thread. No one has gotten their feelings hurt. __________________ Randy -------------------- Project Potemkin http://www.projectpotemkin.com

October 15 2012, 03:18 AM	#49
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: Paramount IP enforcement, has it hit any productions yet? To be honest, I agree with you. The info andreich posted is something I think would be viewed as highly useful to other fans who might read this thread and may wish to launch their won fan films. (Again, thanks so much for sharing!) Closing this thread would basically relegate that information to the bottom of the forum and eventually pruning it form the site, which would be rather unfortunate I think. Why not just let the conversation trail off as the rest of most of the threads here do instead of locking it off so early? __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

October 15 2012, 10:53 AM	#50
MikeH92467 Vice Admiral Location: Tampa, FL	Re: Paramount IP enforcement, has it hit any productions yet? I think it's interesting that good faith efforts kept this thread from degenerating into a nasty mess. There's a lot of useful information and I think everyone deserves credit for being willing to share information on this very important subject. __________________ "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." Annie Savoy

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October 15 2012, 01:55 PM	#51
Captain Atkin Commander Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Re: Paramount IP enforcement, has it hit any productions yet? I would keep the thread open, but just change the title of the thread to something more positive, if possible.

October 16 2012, 08:08 AM	#53
Maurice Rear Admiral Location: Maurice in San Francisco	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films Honestly, Greg, there's no need to lock this down. Sure, there's been a fair amount of activity in this discussion in recent days, but not everyone reads the board ever day, and locking the thread when there's no compelling reason to cuts off those people from an opportunity to participate. __________________ * * * "Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." —Rod Serling, 1970" Last edited by Maurice; October 16 2012 at 08:20 AM.

October 16 2012, 12:50 PM	#54
GSchnitzer Co-Executive Producer Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA, Terra	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films I was getting offline complaints to the moderator about the tone and direction the thread was taking. If folks continue to be respectful of willingness to share (or not share) it can stay open. (I did change the title a bit and board members' suggestion. Best to everyone. __________________ Greg Schnitzer Co-Executive Producer Star Trek Phase II http://www.startrekphase2.com http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3348883/

October 16 2012, 09:42 PM	#55
T'Bonz Romulan Curmudgeon Location: Across the Neutral Zone	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films No need to shut it down. If people misbehave, that's why we have a warning button, even though I'm slow to use it in here. __________________ Live long and suffer! - Ancient Romulan greeting. Romulans aren't paranoid. We're merely proactively cautious.

October 16 2012, 11:55 PM	#56
Tom Rear Admiral Location: In your Mind!	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films There is always the airlock.. __________________ Make it so...

October 17 2012, 04:30 PM	#58
Linnear Lieutenant Commander Location: Newport Beach, CA	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films BTW, Phase II, Intrepid, Ajax, Secret Voyage and Axanar all got together and discussed a Star Trek Film Makers Association. We discussed how we could all work together, share information, assets and talent, and promote each other. I know I have already made introductions for Craig of Secret Voyage and Jim Bray of Ajax, that have helped them both with their productions. I worked with the great guys at Ajax and they have offered use of their sets as I have done the same for others. If we all work together, we can help each other and achieve great things! Alec

October 17 2012, 05:32 PM	#59
MikeH92467 Vice Admiral Location: Tampa, FL	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films This association strikes me as an excellent idea. Perhaps the biggest obstacle to getting more productions and stories out is the need to reinvent the wheel when it comes to standing sets. Putting together a video production is still going to be an incredible amount of work, but if you don't have to build sets and technical advice and assistance are available, it would make the job a bit less imposing. Feel free to drop me a PM if there are any further developments. __________________ "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." Annie Savoy

October 17 2012, 05:49 PM	#60
JimTheBuilder Lieutenant Commander Location: In a van, down by the river in Vermont	Re: CBS's "Rules of Engagement" for Star Trek Fan Films Yes, it was HUGE of Patty to post such enriching information! As far as "The Association", I'm VERY excited about the potential we're about to tap...as I said at our SKYPE meeting..."A high tide raises all boats." We can learn from each other, assist each other and all that we gain from coming together is, frankly, immeasurable! Knowing what we can/cannot, should/shouldn't do is priceless...it pushes us in new directions and can only help us make better films. __________________ - - "He's dead Jim. You get his phaser, I'll get his wallet."