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TrekToday http://www.trektoday.com/content Daily Star Trek news Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:53:37 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.3 Retro Review: Learning Curve http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/retro-review-learning-curve/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/retro-review-learning-curve/#comments Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:16:02 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41256 Tuvok attempts to train four Maquis crewmembers who are having difficulty following Starfleet protocols.

Plot Summary: Lieutenant Dalby discovers a malfunctioning bio-neural gel pack and replaces it without getting authorization, which causes several systems ship-wide to stop working. Tuvok expresses concern to Janeway that Dalby and some other Maquis crewmembers are not trained or disciplined enough to work on a Starfleet vessel. Though Janeway is more worried about the possibility of multiple gel pack failures disabling Voyager’s systems, she recommends an on-the-job training course for the crewmembers having the greatest difficulties. Chakotay gives onetime Starfleet Academy instructor Tuvok a list of possible candidates, from which Tuvok selects four junior officers – impulsive Dalby, belligerent Henley, unfocused Chell, and bitter Gerron – who deeply resent being singled out for extra attention. The group complains when Tuvok insists that they remove all traces of their personal style from their professional demeanor and marches out after what they consider to be an unfair physical exercise. Neelix offers Tuvok some wisdom about plant stalks needing to be flexible, which Tuvok at first takes to mean that the young crewmembers are too rigid, then discovers that Neelix means to criticize himself and his teaching methods. He tries to get to know Dalby and realizes that some of the Maquis crewmembers suffered traumas that make it impossible for them to become contented, well-adjusted Starfleet officers overnight. Meanwhile, the Doctor discovers that Neelix’s attempt to make cheese has cultivated a bacteria that now infects the gel packs. The Doctor proposes raising the temperature to help the gel packs fight off the infection, but although the gel packs are saved, Tuvok and his unhappy team become trapped in a cargo bay where Gerron is injured. Dalby becomes irate when Tuvok orders him to get to safety with Henley and Chell, but when Tuvok himself violates procedure, risking his life to save Gerron, the Maquis officers are impressed and promise to work harder to obey the rules.

Analysis: I didn’t like “Learning Curve” when it first aired for its obnoxious attitude toward Maquis dissidents and indeed toward anyone who refused to assimilate entirely into Starfleet’s arbitrary regulations, which I thought at the time might just reflect my lack of understanding of how military protocols worked. But it rubs me the wrong way even more so now that we’ve seen some of the history of Vulcan intolerance in Enterprise, and now that we know the Maquis will be asked to give up their sense of belonging to their own cultures as well as their identities as members of an organization in conflict with Starfleet (the latter a demand that’s completely justified on a mission like Voyager’s, though I note that Worf was allowed to wear the accoutrements of a Klingon warrior on duty even when the Klingons were at war with the Federation). Of course it’s a problem that many of the Maquis have not had Starfleet training in teamwork, physical fitness, even self-protection, though I might note that Neelix and Kes haven’t either. It would seem both reasonable and fair for Tuvok to include them in a course to get underprepared crewmembers ready for life traveling through the Delta Quadrant, particularly since Kes had never left her village, let alone her homeworld, until just before Voyager arrived. The cheese incident that almost destroys the bio-neural gel packs is a far more heinous betrayal of safety protocols than the replacement of one of those gel packs, even if Dalby is rude when reprimanded while Neelix only stammers in embarrassment. And surely there are Starfleet crewmembers as well as Maquis who were unprepared to have a brief mission into the Badlands turn into a potentially lifelong journey? Couldn’t many of the junior officers use a refresher course in focus and teamwork? If Janeway and Chakotay’s goal is to get their two crews functioning as a single unit with the same ease with which Torres now works with Carey, they’d be well advised to include some Starfleet officers in the remedial class even just for show. Not so long ago, Tom Paris was a criminal and Torres was punching fellow officers, while now they’re fourth and fifth in the command chain; seems like a lot of people on that ship could use a bit of extra attention.

And although Tuvok may have been an Academy instructor for more than a decade, he seems like the wrong person to be leading an exercise in new-to-Starfleet teamwork. These angry, demoralized Maquis crewmembers need a counselor, not a disciplinarian; the morale officer might do them more good, and indeed does them more good when he lectures Tuvok, than a stern Vulcan whom they consider a traitor to their cause. I think it’s a mistake that we see the senior officers’ point of view rather than that of the recruits, since we don’t get to learn the positive independent-minded aspects of what Chakotay dismisses as “the Maquis way.” A strong left hook may get someone hauled before a disciplinary committee in Starfleet, but we’ve had such behavior by the Klingons rammed down our throats for years now as something we should admire, so it just doesn’t look particularly outrageous when a Maquis crewmember does precisely what a Klingon would do in a similar situation of being singled out for his temper. Apart from Dalby, who joined the Maquis because Cardassians brutalized his girlfriend, we never get to know the Maquis crewmembers, and the more Tuvok talks, the more arrogant he seems, like the obnoxious Vulcans of “Take Me Out to the Holosuite” rather than thoughtful, nuanced individuals like Spock and Sarek. Now that the US military and other such organizations have relaxed their rules about whether and when soldiers can wear yarmulkes, hijabs, and other items directly related to the practice of religion, I feel even more justified in my fury against Tuvok when he orders Gerron to take off his Bajoran earring – an accessory quite different from the headband that Tuvok forbids Henley to wear. The Bajoran earring is a symbol of faith. It’s also a mark of one’s family and social caste, two things that the young Gerron has lost being stranded 70,000 light years from home. Whether he had lost those already in a traumatic incident that led him to join the Maquis, as Dalby seems to believe, or whether he joined the Maquis out of sympathy for the settlers’ desire to protect their homes, like Kasidy Yates, Gerron is clearly clinging to this one meaningful relic of his former life, which Tuvok orders him to put away without any care for its significance.

Clearly, Tuvok is obsessed with the letter of the law rather than its spirit – he’s closer to being Javert from Les Miserables than was Sisko when Eddington mocked him with that sobriquet – but given the pettiness of the Vulcans we saw in many TNG and DS9 episodes, I gather we’re supposed to assume that it’s because Tuvok’s a Vulcan, for whom logic demands holding even to the most trivial of regulations. But I can’t understand why Chakotay agrees to let someone whom he thought served his own cause, then turned out to have been working behind his back all along, serve as corrections officer for other Maquis crewmembers. Chakotay’s facial tattoo would not be permitted even in the current US military, and I’d love to hear his response if Tuvok ordered him to remove it or cover it up. He’s usually a champion of diversity and broadmindedness, yet he seems amused at the thought of having four shipmates for whom he was once responsible, who are as troubled as they are troubling, put under Tuvok’s yoke. Of course ship-wide discipline is important in a crisis, as we see when it takes much of the crew working together to solve the problem with the gel packs, but a rigid dress code for people who will be working together for many years can hardly be the element that makes them see themselves as a team. It will be acknowledging, understanding, accepting, and taking advantage of their differences which will accomplish that. If the Starfleet uniform serves to bond Voyager’s crew in early days, it later serves to homogenize them; no wonder Sisko preferred spending his off-duty hours in African dress and Kira never stopped wearing her Bajoran earring even when in Starfleet uniform. “Learning Curve” fails in its effort to be “Lower Decks” because it fears to let us get to know and admire the quirks of the individual Maquis, erasing their distinct histories and grievances even as Janeway’s off playing traditional British governess in a traditional British novel knockoff. She needs to spend more time thinking about exactly which aspects of the Federation she plans to keep thriving on her ship as it creeps toward home.

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Star Trek: The Exhibition In Washington State http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/star-trek-the-exhibition-in-washington-state/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/star-trek-the-exhibition-in-washington-state/#comments Fri, 31 Jul 2015 19:00:37 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41252 Star Trek: The Exhibition will be arriving at the Washington State Fair in September.

The Washington State Fair will take place September 11-27 in Puyallup.

Star Trek: The Exhibition, under license by CBS Consumer Products, will run for seventeen days and gives visitors the opportunity to enjoy an interactive, museum-style experience of one of the largest collections of authentic Star Trek artifacts and information ever put on public display. This is a separate ticketed exhibit, and requires Fair admission. Exhibit tickets can be purchased in advance for $6.50 until Sept 10 here, or $8 at the State Fair. Children five years and under are free in the exhibit with a paid adult. Online orders are subject to standard processing fees.

The Exhibition brings visitors into the Star Trek universe and allows them to connect with iconic Star Trek moments. Throughout this experience, visitors, especially younger visitors and youth, will be inspired and motivated to seek out more education, and perhaps ignite a passion for lifelong learning and careers in science and technology.

Star Trek fans and novices alike will have a first-hand interactive experience to explore the worlds, wisdom, science, stories, cultures, characters, fashions and fantasies of the Star Trek universe. In the States, and around the world, Star Trek has become a sub-culture for many, supported by countless fan conventions and fan gatherings where many regularly gather and role-play in their favorite Star Trek characters.

“Among the main attractions of The Exhibition is the opportunity to sit in the legendary Captain’s chair where Captain Kirk and subsequently Captain Picard took command of the U.S.S. Enterprise; the opportunity to pose in front of a replica of the U.S.S. Enterprise; and one-of-a-kind displays, interactive kiosks and rare photo opportunities.”

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August-September 2015 Trek Conventions And Appearances http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/august-september-2015-trek-conventions-and-appearances/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/august-september-2015-trek-conventions-and-appearances/#comments Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:53:51 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41248 There will be nineteen conventions, shows or appearances in August and September that will feature actors of interest to Star Trek fans.

This listing of conventions and shows features actors from all of the televised series and several of the Star Trek movies.

August begins with The Official Star Trek Convention will be held Aug. 6-9 at the Rio Suites Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. In attendance at The Official Star Trek Convention will be Marc Alaimo, Vaughn Armstrong, Richard Arnold, Rene Auberjonois, Robert Beltran, Casey Biggs, John Billingsley, Brannon Braga, Bobby Clark, Joan Collins, Jeffrey Combs, Denise Crosby, Olivia d’Abo, Michael Dante, James Darren, Roxanne Dawson, Nicole de Boer, John de Lancie, Elizabeth Dennehy (Commander Shelby), Chris Doohan, Michael Dorn, Doug Drexler, Aron Eisenberg, Terry Farrell, Jonathan Frakes, Bryan Fuller, Joseph Gatt, Max Grodenchik, Richard Herd, J.G. Hertzler, Jennifer Hetrick (Vash), Manu Intiraymi, Sherry Jackson, Salome Jens, Dominic Keating, Walter Koenig, Alice Krige, Cirroc Lofton, Don Marshall, Chase Masterson, Robert Duncan McNeill, Anthony Montgomery, Ronald B. Moore, Kate Mulgrew, Larry Nemecek, Adam Nimoy, Denise Okuda, Mike Okuda, Robert O’Reilly, Linda Park, Ethan Phillips, Robert Picardo, Andrew Robinson, Rod Roddenberry, David L. Ross (Lt. Galloway and Lt. Johnson), Saul Rubinek, Tim Russ, Jeri Ryan, Judson Scott (Joachim from The Wrath of Khan), William Shatner, Mark Allen Shepherd (Morn), William Morgan Sheppard, Armin Shimerman, Alexander Siddig, Marina Sirtis, Rick Sternbach, Sir Patrick Stewart, Kitty Swink, George Takei, Connor Trinneer, Karl Urban, Nana Visitor, Garrett Wang, and Michael Westmore.

Next up is Shore Leave, to be held Aug. 7-9 at the Baltimore Hunt Valley Inn in Hunt Valley, Maryland. In attendance at Shore Leave will be Daniel Davis (Professor James Moriarty).

The Steel City Con will be held Aug. 7-9 at the Monroeville Convention Center in Monroeville, Pennsylvania. In attendance at Steel City Con will be Nichelle Nichols.

The Dublin Comic Con will be held Aug. 8-9 at the Convention Centre Dublin in Dublin, Ireland. In attendance at Dublin Comic Con will be Gates McFadden.

The Windsor ComiCon will be held Aug. 15-16 at the Caesars Windsor in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. In attendance at Windsor ComiCon will be Marina Sirtis.

Crypticon Kansas City will take place Aug. 21-23 at the Howard Johnson Plaza in Kansas City, Missouri. In attendance at Crypticon Kansas City will be Sid Haig, Chris Sarandon, and Tony Todd.

Walker Stalker Con will be held Aug. 22-23 at the Westin Waterfront in Boston, Massachusetts. In attendance at Walker Stalker Con will be Denise Crosby.

The Central Coast Comic Con will take place Aug. 28-30 at the Ventura County Fairgrounds in Ventura, California. In attendance at Central Coast Comic Con will be Sid Haig (Lawgiver in Return of the Archons) and Deep Roy.

Wrapping up August will be the Bournemouth Film & Comic Con, to be held Aug. 29-30 at the Bournemouth International Centre in Bournemouth, England. In attendance at the Bournemouth Film & Comic Con will be Max Grodenchik.

September begins with Fan Expo Canada, which will be held Sept. 3-6 at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In attendance at Fan Expo Canada will be Jeffrey Combs, Malcolm McDowell, Jennifer Morrison, Kate Mulgrew, Ethan Phillips, Robert Picardo, and Jeri Ryan.

Dragon*Con will take place Sept. 4-7 at several hotels in Atlanta, Georgia. In attendance at Dragon*Con will be Terry Farrell, Jonathan Frakes, Gary Lockwood, and Paul McGillion.

Wizard World Comic Con San Jose will be held Sept. 4-6 at the San Jose Convention Center in San Jose, California. In attendance at Wizard World Comic Con San Jose will be Adrienne Barbeau.

The Alamo City Comic Con will be held Sept. 11-13 at the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in San Antonio, Texas. In attendance at Alamo City Comic Con will be Olivia d’Abo and Ron Perlman.

The Wizard World Comic Con Pittsburgh will be held Sept. 11-13 at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Appearing at Wizard World Comic Con Pittsburgh will be Colm Meaney and William Shatner.

RocCon will be held Sept. 11-13 at the Kodak Event Center in Rochester, New York. In attendance at RocCon will be Nichelle Nichols and Marina Sirtis.

Wizard World Comic Con Columbus will be held Sept. 18-20 at the Greater Columbus Convention Center in Columbus, Ohio. Appearing at Wizard World Comic Con Columbus will be Brent Spiner.

The Rose City Comic Con will be held Sept. 19-20 at the Oregon Convention Center in Portland, Oregon. In attendance at Rose City Comic Con will be Walter Koenig, Nichelle Nichols, and Wil Wheaton.

The Salt Lake Comic Con will be held Sept. 24-26 at the Salt Palace in Salt Lake City, Utah. Walter Koenig will be appearing at the Salt Lake Comic Con.

September wraps up with the London Comic Con, to be held Sept. 25-27 at the Western Fair District in London, Ontario, Canada. In attendance at the London Comic Con will be Nicole de Boer and Ron Perlman.

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Shatner To Pen Book On Nimoy http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/shatner-to-pen-book-on-nimoy/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/shatner-to-pen-book-on-nimoy/#comments Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:45:58 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41245 William Shatner is planning on writing a book about his friend Leonard Nimoy.

Shatner considered Nimoy to be a brother to him.

“I’m writing a book about Leonard,” said Shatner. “I had a brother, whose life arc was so much like mine that we understood each other completely. Our age, our birth, the same types of problems in our marriages – our careers arced in the same manner.

“We had a great deal in common, Leonard and I. And thusly we were able to understand each other. I’ve lost a dear friend.”

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Star Trek Beyond Building Continues http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/star-trek-beyond-building-continues/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/star-trek-beyond-building-continues/#comments Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:42:43 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41236 More photographs from the Star Trek Beyond set have emerged.

Five new photos show the progress made in building the set which began back in May.

STB-1

The first photo shows the bare bones of the set back in May.

STB-2

The second photo shows what appeared to be a building with some broken trees on it.

STB-3

In the third photo, it becomes clear that the second photo was not a building, but hills with broken trees. The plywood of the second photo has been covered with dirt.

STB-4

STB-5

In the last two photos, the “hills” set is being expanded.

Larger-sized photos are available at the referring site.

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Trinneer In Western Horror http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/trinneer-in-western-horror/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/trinneer-in-western-horror/#comments Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:14:05 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41232 Fans of Connor Trinneer will be able to see the actor in a western horror movie set to release on DVD and VOD beginning August 4.

The movie is called A Good Day To Die.

In A Good Day To Die, “Baron Emerson uses his vast wealth to travel the world and hunt. He does not hunt animals, he hunts warriors. The Baron arrives at the American frontier and is looking for his next prey. An outlaw gunslinger named Chamberlin who is in jail and set to be hanged. The Baron arranges for Chamberlin to be freed so that he can hunt him like an animal in a bloody game of life and death in the Wild West.”

Trinneer portrays the hunted Chamberlin, while Robert Koroluck is the hunter Baron Emerson. Others included in A Good Day To Die include Nadia Lanfranconi, Jay Kown, and Leia Perez.

A Good Day To Die was written and directed by Rene Perez.

The movie has already made its European debut, where it was released under the title Prey For Death.

For US fans, to pre-order A Good Day To Die, which sells for $8.46, head to the link located here.

 

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Beam Me Up Scotty Figurines http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/beam-me-up-scotty-figurines/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/beam-me-up-scotty-figurines/#comments Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:10:46 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41229 Two new original series figures feature Kirk and Spock in the process of “beaming up.”

The figures will be available from Funko beginning next month.

Each poseable figure is 3 3/4″ in height and features a beaming effect (the bottom part of each character shows this effect). “Captain James T. Kirk [and Spock have five] points of articulation and features unique accessories and the 1980s style card back design.”

The Beaming Kirk and Spock ReAction figures will ship next month. Each sells for $12.99 and can be pre-ordered here for Kirk, and here for Spock.

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UK Auction To Feature Spock Costume http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/uk-auction-to-feature-spock-costume/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/uk-auction-to-feature-spock-costume/#comments Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:08:35 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41226 TrekUKAuction073015

An auction to be held in the UK this autumn will feature a costume worn by Leonard Nimoy.

The Prop Store and Odeon Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction will take place September 23.

The catalog for the auction isn’t available yet, but at least two Star Trek items will be auctioned.

A costume worn by Nimoy during the second season (blue shirt and black trousers) will be up for auction, and is expected to fetch up to £70,000.

Also in the auction will be a model starship used in The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine.

Other non-Trek items of interest include a Star Wars stormtrooper helmet, Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s jacket from Terminator 3, a Lord of the Rings Witch King’s dagger, and a set of claws worn by Hugh Jackman in X2:X-Men United.

In all, four-hundred-and-fifty items will be auctioned.

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Pine To Star In Wonder Woman http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/pine-to-star-in-wonder-woman/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/pine-to-star-in-wonder-woman/#comments Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:57:20 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41222 PineWonderWoman052815

Back in May, TrekToday reported that Chris Pine was in negotiations to star in Warner Bros. Wonder Woman; today comes word that Pine has signed on for the role.

Pine will be playing Steve Trevor, Diana Prince’s love interest.

In the Wonder Woman comics, Trevor “was an intelligence officer in the United States Army during World War II whose plane crashed on Paradise Island, the isolated homeland of the Amazons. He was nursed back to health by the Amazon princess Diana, who fell in love with him and followed him when he returned to the outside world. There she became Wonder Woman (and also his co-worker, Diana Prince).”

Pine’s deal reportedly includes sequel options.

Written by Jason Fuchs, Wonder Woman will be directed by Patty Jenkins. Pine will be starring with Gal Gadot, who will take on the role of Diana Prince.

Wonder Woman will be released June 23, 2017.

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Pegg Teases Elba Character http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/pegg-teases-elba-character/ http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/07/pegg-teases-elba-character/#comments Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:54:46 +0000 http://www.trektoday.com/content/?p=41218 Elba072915

Simon Pegg spoke briefly about the character that Idris Elba will be playing in Star Trek Beyond.

The character that Elba will be playing will be unique, Pegg promised.

“It’s a really interesting, complex character,” said Pegg. “We shouldn’t expect to see anything like Benedict Cumberbatch‘s creepy genius Khan from Star Trek Into Darkness in Elba’s performance, however. His performance is all his own.”

There’s a good reason that Elba’s villain is different than Cumberbatch’s. “Only because it would be a retread,” said Pegg. “What we don’t want to do is have the same kind of villain with the same motivation.”

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Old October 12 2012, 01:56 PM   #1
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Star Trek Abridged & Non Filler List

For all fans and newcombers who want to take part in the epic of Star Trek but don't have time to sit through the 726 episodes spread across the 6 series and the 11 movies. I have prepared a list for what I consider the must see to grasp each show. I cut out as many bad episodes, filler and pointless episodes as i can for each. This is all based on my opinion of what's necessary of course. For long arcs like the Dominion and Xindi conflicts i left much of the material in even though some might be filler. I've seen everything to completion except Voyager so that list will be coming in the future.

For TOS i rearranged some of the episodes to reflect their Production Number instead of their air date. Mostly because it works better thematically.

Star Trek TOS 1966-1969

Season 1
Ep. 1 Where No Man Has Gone Before
Ep. 2 The Corbomite Manuver
Ep. 6 The Naked Time
Ep. 8 Balance of Terror
Ep. 10 Dagger of the Mind
Ep. 13 The Galileo Seven
Ep. 15-16 The Menagerie Part 1-2
Ep. 18 Squire of Gothos
Ep. 19 Arena
Ep. 21 Tomorrow is Yesterday
Ep. 22The Return of the Archons
Ep. 23 A Taste ofArmageddon
Ep. 24 Space Seed
Ep. 25 This Side of Paradise
Ep. 26The Devil in the Dark
Ep. 27 Errand of Mercy
Ep. 28 City on the Edge of Forever
Ep. 29 Operation Annihilate

Season 2
Ep. 4 Who Mourns for Adonis
Ep. 5 Amok Time
Ep. 6The Doomsday Machine
Ep. 8The Changeling
Ep. 10 Mirror, Mirror
Ep. 13Troubles With Tribbles
Ep. 14 Bread and Circuses
Ep. 15 Journey to Babel
Ep. 16 Gamesters of Triskelion
Ep. 18 Obsession
Ep. 20 A Piece of the Action
Ep. 21 By Any Other Name
Ep. 23 Patterns of Force
Ep. 24 The Ultimate Computer
Ep. 26 Assignment Earth

Season 3
Ep. 4 The Enterprise Incident
Ep. 9 Tholian Web
Ep. 10 For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
Ep. 11 Day of the Dove
Ep. 15 Let That Be Your Battlefield
Ep. 23 All of our Yesterdays


Cheating Here But I do have a soft spot in my heart for The Animated Series. Since it's potential Season 4 Material for TOS I'll post the list here.

TAS 1973-1974

Ep. 1 Beyond the Farthest Star
Ep. 2 Yesteryear
Ep. 5 More Tribbles, More Troubles
Ep. 7 The Infinite Vulcan
Ep. 12 The Time Trap

Edit: Updated to reflect suggestions by erastus25

Movies 1979-1991 & 2009
Star Trek The Motion Picture
Star Trek II:The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III:The Search For Spock
Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek (2009) Techinically XI

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Re: Star Trek Abridged & Non Filler List

What exactly were your criteria for TOS? I think this exercise is useful for the serialized style of DS9, but due to the episodic nature of TOS it becomes somewhat pointless. For instance how is a hackneyed racism plot like Battlefield, or a "Nazis in Space" episode, any more representative of the themes or characters of the series than random episodes like The Enemy Within or Charlie X? And how can something like Conscience of the King or Obsession be excluded when they provide valuable insight into Kirk's character, while Operation Annihilate!, which is only notable for establishing Spock's ridiculous inner eye lid and Kirk's trivial dead brother, is included?

And The Infinite Vulcan?!
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Re: Star Trek Abridged & Non Filler List

How did More Tribbles, More Troubles make it onto the list? That episode was just a shameless, albeit animated, rehashing of the last one!

I'm making my way through a number of different series, and while we might all come up with subjective lists of the strongest and best representatives of the series (which is an admirable goal to help people who want to get a feel for it but don't want to sit through episodes like Shore Leave), I think there's something to be said for taking the bad with the good. That's certainly what I've been doing, and the worse episodes really make the good ones stand out.
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erastus25 wrote: View Post
What exactly were your criteria for TOS? I think this exercise is useful for the serialized style of DS9, but due to the episodic nature of TOS it becomes somewhat pointless. For instance how is a hackneyed racism plot like Battlefield, or a "Nazis in Space" episode, any more representative of the themes or characters of the series than random episodes like The Enemy Within or Charlie X? And how can something like Conscience of the King or Obsession be excluded when they provide valuable insight into Kirk's character, while Operation Annihilate!, which is only notable for establishing Spock's ridiculous inner eye lid and Kirk's trivial dead brother, is included?

And The Infinite Vulcan?!
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How did More Tribbles, More Troubles make it onto the list? That episode was just a shameless, albeit animated, rehashing of the last one!

I'm making my way through a number of different series, and while we might all come up with subjective lists of the strongest and best representatives of the series (which is an admirable goal to help people who want to get a feel for it but don't want to sit through episodes like Shore Leave), I think there's something to be said for taking the bad with the good. That's certainly what I've been doing, and the worse episodes really make the good ones stand out.
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My criteria was episodes I found enjoyable, fun and necessary to get a grasp of the kind of show Star Trek was. Cringe worthy episodes like Charlie X, Miri, Catspaw, Spock's Brain, Children Shall Lead, Plato's Stepchildren and those like it didn't factor in to my list because they aren't Trek's brightest moments. While episodes like What are little girls made of, Metamorphis, Requiem for Methuselah, Return to Tomorrow have more going for them and I would recommend seeing them they distract from better episodes. There are more episodes I haven't named that have their own charm to them but I didn't feel it necessary to include them as well.

As for Infinite Vulcan it was Walter Koenig's only contribution to the animated series. That and it's a fun episode. Although the Eugenics War and giant thing was a bit of a stretch.

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More Tribbles, More Troubles I added because it's a follow up to Trouble With Tribbles and if the events of Trial's and Tribblations is taken as full canon then it makes Worf's statements about the Klingon destruction of tribbles more tangible in the sense that the great Klingon Empire did pursue the extermination of tribbles.
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Ask ten different people what is and isn't worth watching and you'll get at least eleven different answers.

I found episodes on that list that I didn't much care for and ones I liked that were overlooked. As it's subjective to opinion, my advice to anyone is watch it yourself and formulate your own opinion rather than accepting someone else's.
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The Next Generation

Season 1
Ep: 1-2 Encounter at Farpoint part 1-2
Ep: 3 The Naked Now
Ep: 6 Where No One Has Gone Before
Ep: 7 Lonely Among Us
Ep: 9 The Battle
Ep: 11 Haven
Ep: 12 The Big Goodbye
Ep: 13 Datalore
Ep: 15 11001001
Ep: 16 Too Short a Season
Ep: 18 Home Soil
Ep: 19 Coming Of Age
Ep: 20 Heart Of Glory
Ep: 22 Symbiosis
Ep: 23 Skin of Evil
Ep: 25 Conspiracy
Ep: 26The Neutral Zone

Season 2

Ep: 1 The Child
Ep: 7 Unnatural Selection
Ep: 9 A Matter of Honor
Ep: 9 The Measure of a Man
Ep: 11 Contagion
Ep: 13 Time Squared
Ep: 14 The Icarus Factor
Ep: 15 Pen Pals
Ep: 16 Q Who
Ep: 19 Manhunt
Ep: 20 Emissary

Season 3

Ep: 1 Evolution
Ep: 2 The Ensigns of Command
Ep: 3 The Survivors
Ep: 7 The Enemy
Ep: 10 The Defector
Ep: 12 The High Ground
Ep: 13 Deja Q
Ep: 15 Yesterday's Enterprise
Ep: 16 The Offspring
Ep: 17 Sins of the Father
Ep: 22 The Most Toys
Ep: 23 Sarek
Ep: 24 Menage a Troi
Ep: 26 Best Of Both Worlds Part 1

Season 4

Ep: 1 Best Of Both Worlds Part 2
Ep: 2 Family
Ep: 3 Brothers
Ep: 7 Reunion
Ep: 9 Final Mission
Ep: 10 The Loss
Ep: 11 Data's day
Ep: 12 The Wounded
Ep: 14 Clues
Ep: 15 First Contact
Ep: 16 Galaxy's Child
Ep: 17 Night Terrors
Ep: 21 The Drumhead
Ep: 22 Half a Life
Ep: 23 The Host
Ep: 24 The Mind's Eye
Ep: 25 In Theory
Ep: 26 Redemption Part 1

Season 5
Ep: 1 Redemption Part 2
Ep: 2 Darmok
Ep: 3 Ensign Ro
Ep: 5 Disaster
Ep: 7-8 Unification Part 1 and 2
Ep: 10 New Ground
Ep: 11 Hero Worship
Ep: 14 Conundrum
Ep: 16 Ethics
Ep: 18 Cause and Effect
Ep: 19 First Duty
Ep: 21 Perfect Mate
Ep: 23 I Borg
Ep: 24 The Next Phase
Ep: 25 Inner Light
Ep: 26 Time Arrow part 1

Season 6

Ep: 1 Time Arrow part 2
Ep: 4 Relics
Ep: 5 Schisms
Ep: 10-11 Chain of Command Part 1-2
Ep: 14 Face of the Enemy
Ep: 15 Tapestry
Ep: 16-17 Birthright Part 1-2
Ep: 18 Starship Mine
Ep: 19 Lessons
Ep: 20 The Chase
Ep: 21 Frame of Mind
Ep: 23 Rightful Heir
Ep: 24 Second Chances
Ep: 25 Timescape
Ep: 26 Descent Part 1

Season 7

Ep: 1 Descent Part 2
Ep: 4-5 Gambit Part 1-2
Ep: 6 Phantasms
Ep: 7 Dark Page
Ep: 8 Attached
Ep: 10 Inheritance
Ep: 11 Parallels
Ep: 12 Pegasus
Ep: 15 Lower Decks
Ep: 16 Thine Own Self
Ep: 20 Journey's End
Ep: 21 Firstborn
Ep: 24 Preemptive Strike
Ep: 25-26 All Good Things Part 1-2

178 episodes trimmed down to a healthy 110
Not bad considering 180 episodes across 7 seasons is overindulgent IMO.


Movies 1994-2002

Star Trek VII: Generations
Star Trek VIII: First Contact
Star Trek IX: Insurrection
Star Trek X: Nemesis

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Deep Space Nine 1993-1999

Season 1

Emissary Part 1-2
Past Prologue
Captive Pursuit
Dax
The Nagus
Battle Lines
The Forsaken
Duet
In the Hands of the Propherts

Season 2

The Homecoming
The Circle
The Siege
Cardassians
Rules of Acquisition
Necessary Evil
Sanctuary
The Alternate
Profit and Loss
The Maquis Part 1-2
The Wire
The Collaborator
Tribunal
The Jem'Hadar

Season 3

The Search part 1-2
Equilibrium
Second Skin
The Abandoned
Civil Defense
Defiant
Past Tense Part 1-2
Life Support
Heart of Stone
Destiny
Improbable Cause
The Die is Cast
Explorers
Family Business
Shakaar
The Adversary

Season 4

The Way of the Warrior 1-2
The Visitor
Hippocratic Oath
Indiscretion
Rejoined
Little Green Men
Homefront
Paradise Lost
Crossfire
Return to Grace
Sons of Mogh
Bar Association
Accession
Rules of Engagement
For the Cause
Body Parts
Broken Link

Season 5

Apocalypse Rising
The Ship
Trials and Tribble-ations
Things Past
Rapture
The Darkness and the Light
The Begotten
For the Uniform
In Purgatory's Shadow
By Inferno's Light
Doctor Bashir, I Presume
Business as Usual
Ties of Blood and Water
Ferengi Love Songs
Soldiers of the Empire
Children of Time
Blaze of Glory
Empok Nor
Call to Arms

Season 6

A Time to Stand
Rocks and Shoals
Sons and Daughters
Behind the Lines
Favor the Bold
Sacrifice of Angels
You Are Cordially Invited
The Magnificent Ferengi
Statistical Probabilities
Waltz
Far Beyond the Stars
Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night
Inquisition
In the Pale Moonlight
His Way
The Reckoning
Valiant
Tears of the Prophets

Season 7
Image in the Sand
Shadows and Symbols
Afterimage
Treachery, Faith and the Great River
Once More Unto the Breach
The Siege of AR-558
Covenant
It's Only a Paper Moon
Chimera
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
Penumbra
'Til Death Do Us Part
Strange Bedfellows
The Changing Face of Evil
When It Rains...
Tacking Into the Wind
Extreme Measures
The Dogs of War
What You Leave Behind 1-2


176 episodes trimmed down to 118.

I cut out all the Mirror Universe episodes because they are all terrible IMO and thematically ruined the Mirror Universe by contorting it to fit DS9's story and characters. Enterprise's "In a Mirror Darkly" was closer to what the Mirror Universe should be IMO.

While not a fan of "Trials and Tribblations" I added it to the list because a lot of people like it. The Bajoran mystic items and prophets are stupid and Deus Ex Machina IMO. Plus Trials and Tribbleations comes off as a very big apology to Kirk and the fans for the lackluster way they killed him off in Generations. Leagues better than Voyager's Flashback however.

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Old October 13 2012, 06:11 AM   #8
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If you have time to watch 110 TNG episodes, surely you have time to watch all 178 and decide for yourself . . .

ETA: If someone *needed* a really short list for some reason, I have a list of 20-odd episodes that follow the progression of the most interesting ideas TO ME in TNG (Data, Q, the Borg, time travel). But it's really best for people to watch it all and decide on their own.

I do have to ask, how is Menage A Troi at all helpful in understanding Star Trek? It was boring and pretty much pointless, as I recall.
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Enterprise 2001-2005

Broken Bow 1-2
The Andorian Incident
Breaking the Ice
Cold Front
Silent Enemy
Sleeping Dogs
Shadows of P'Jem
Shuttlepod One
Fusion
Acquisition *Good episode despite it's blatant canonicty breaking
Detained
Fallen Hero
Shockwave

Season 2

Shockwave, Part II
Minefield
The Communicator
Stigma
Cease Fire
Future Tense
Judgment
Regeneration
First Flight
Bounty
The Expanse

Season 3

The Xindi
Anomaly
Rajiin
Impulse
Exile
The Shipment
Similitude
Carpenter Street
Chosen Realm
Priving Ground
Stratagem
Harbinger
Azati Prime
Damage
The Forgotten
The Council
Countdown
Zero Hour

Season 4

Storm Front 1-2
Home
Borderland
Cold Station 12
The Augments
The Forge
Awakening
Kir'Shara
Babel One
United
The Aenar
Affliction
Divergence
Bound
In a Mirror, Darkly 1-2
Demons
Terra Prime


61 episodes out of 98 is what I deem what the most essential to viewing ENT. If you've never watched Enterprise follow this list and it might changed you opinion on this show.


I took the honest time to rewatch all of Enterprise last week after dropping out during the second season way back when. It left me plesantly surprised. While season 1 and 2 aren't much to speak of as is. I feel this abridged episode list will make it more than tolerable by cutting out the pointless BS. I'll always remain dumbfounded how Berman and Braga could have worked on so many episodes of VOY, DS9 and TNG and not have a working formula for this show. ENT should've been the crown jewel of Trek by it's debut with all the bugs worked out.

Season 3 kept me watching but the 9/11 and American wars in the Middle East theme's did grind my gears. The Xindi Conflict is comparable to the Dominion War although ENT used brevity in it's delivery of the conflict.

Season 4 without question has some of the best Trek episodes across the franchises. Manny Coto really redeemed the show and it's a shame they never a 5th season to continue with the direction many was steering it.
"These are the Voyages" only confirmed that Brannon and Berman had lost all sense of how to connect with the audience they were producing episodes.





P.S. I haven't completed Voyager so I won't have a list for you guy yet.
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ETA: If someone *needed* a really short list for some reason, I have a list of 20-odd episodes that follow the progression of the most interesting ideas TO ME in TNG (Data, Q, the Borg, time travel). But it's really best for people to watch it all and decide on their own.
I thought of doing what you suggested and realized it wouldn't be fair. TOS and TNG have the benefit of not having long arcing stories and generally being episode of the week serials. DS9 has the entire Dominon Conflict, Bajoran-Cardassian conflict post Occupation and the Bajoran faith and Prophets woven in to its storyline. You couldn't pick out 20 episodes of DS9 show them to a non fan and expect them to get it. IMO one of the weakness of DS9. So much of it's story surrounds the Dominion War. From the season finale of season 2 to the series finale of Season 7, the Dominion War takes precedence. You also wouldn't be able to explain Sisko's journey as broken Starfleet Officer, to religious figure, to Captain and key figure in the Dominion Conflict, to embraced Emissary to the Prophets, to the revelation that Sisko himself is half prophet, and that Sisko will return after Messianic quest with the prophets is completed. None of that can be done in just 20 episodes. DS9 is a complete piece. You have to watch from season 1 to 7 to fully understand and appreciate it. TOS and TNG you can cherry pick 2 dozen episodes or so and people would get the idea of what each is about. So to be fair to all series' i made a complete list of what I feel is necessary for viewing.


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I do have to ask, how is Menage A Troi at all helpful in understanding Star Trek? It was boring and pretty much pointless, as I recall.
Their filter lists honestly. I added Menage A Troi only because Majel Roddenberry was in it. I think I recommended all the Luxana Troi episodes because Majel was the First Lady of Star Trek and continued the role even after her husband's death. In my list they are homages really.

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Well i finally did it. After 167 hours of misery and wanting to punch a hole through my TV. I finally completed Voyager. Here is my Non-Filler List...


Voyager 1995-2001

Season 1

1-2. Caretaker 1-2
3. Parallax
5. Phage
9. Emanations
10. Prime Factors
11. State of Flux
13. Cathexis
14. Faces
15. Jetrel
16. Learning Curve

Season 2

2. Initiations
3. Projections
7. Parturition
8. Persistence of Vision
10. Cold Fire
11. Maneuvers
14. Alliances
15. Meld
17. Dreadnought
19. Lifesigns
20. Investigations
21. Deadlock
23. Thaw
24. Tuvix
26. Basic Part 1

Season 3

1. Basics Part 2
4. The Swarm
8-9. Futures End I-II
13. Fair Trade
14. Alter Ego
16. Blood Fever
17. Unity
19. Rise
21. Before and After
26. Scorpion Part 1

Season 4

1. Scorpion Part 2
2. The Gift
3. Day of Honor
5. Revulsion
6. The Raven
7. Scientific Method
8-9. Year of Hell Part I-II
14. Message in a Bottle
15. Hunters
16. Prey
18-19. The Killing Game Part I-II
23. Living Witness
25. The One
26.Hope and Fear

Season 5

1. Night
2. Drone
3. Extreme Risk
6. Timeless
7. Infinite Regress
8. Nothing Human
9. Thirty Days
11. Latent Image
12. Bride of Chaotica
15-16. Dark Frontier Part I-II
24. Relativity
26. Equinox Part I

Season 6

1. Equinox part 2
2. Survival Instinct
4. Tinker Tailor Doctor Spy
7. Dragon's Teeth
10. Pathfinder
16. Collective
19. Child's Play
23. Fury *Optional* If you are a Kes fan.
24. Life Line
26. Unimatrix Zero Part 1

Season 7

1. Unimatrix Zero Part 2
2. Imperfection
3. Drive
4. Repression
6. Inside Man
7. Body and Soul
9-10. Flesh and Blood
12. Lineage
14. Prophecy
15. The Void
16-17. Work Force I-II *optional*
18. Human Error
20. Author Author *optional but funny and amusing*
23. Homestead
25-26. Endgame I-II

93 episodes out of 167. Not bad not bad

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