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Old October 10 2012, 04:37 PM   #31
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Re: Daredevil back to Marvel Studios?

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I know perfectly well that Spider-Man's movie rights aren't going to be back with Marvel for a long time. I'm not saying I think there's any actual prospect of Spidey and Daredevil sharing a movie universe, I'm just saying I wish it were possible.
I have heard mutterings that all parties would certainly consider licensing Spidey back to appear in the Marvel universe - whether as a cameo or guest star I couldn't say...
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Old October 10 2012, 04:44 PM   #32
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I saw a comment from Lauren Shuler Donner today that she'd be glad to work out an Avengers/X-Men screen crossover, but even aside from the legal/financial difficulties, I'm not sure how it would work, since the X-franchise these days seems to be set squarely in the past, and it's hard to see how to move forward from the present of The Last Stand.
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Old October 10 2012, 05:03 PM   #33
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I mean he works out of a place called "Hell's Kitchen" I would THINK that it'd be pretty nasty down there.
That's the thing, though... when the comics began in the '60s, Hell's Kitchen was a neighborhood worthy of the name, but these days it's been pretty thoroughly cleaned up and gentrified, so its portrayal in Daredevil comics is something of an atavism. These days it's often just called Clinton or Midtown West.
I think that's why Joe Carnahan pitched his take on DD as a 70s-set blaxploitation style movie. To set it when Hell's Kitchen was, well, hellish!

I've suggested that Marvel should hire him and do a series of low-mid budget movies 70s-set for him, Iron Fist, The Falcon and Luke Cage. You could even have a younger Nick Fury.

Of course, as Falcon looks set to fly in the modern-day Captain America: The Winter Soldier, it already looks like my wishlist is merely a pipe-dream.
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Old October 10 2012, 05:10 PM   #34
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I mean he works out of a place called "Hell's Kitchen" I would THINK that it'd be pretty nasty down there.
That's the thing, though... when the comics began in the '60s, Hell's Kitchen was a neighborhood worthy of the name, but these days it's been pretty thoroughly cleaned up and gentrified, so its portrayal in Daredevil comics is something of an atavism. These days it's often just called Clinton or Midtown West.
I think that's why Joe Carnahan pitched his take on DD as a 70s-set blaxploitation style movie. To set it when Hell's Kitchen was, well, hellish!.
Yeah, when I wrote the novelization of the Ben Affleck movie, I spent an afternoon walking around "Hell's Kitchen," taking photos for research purposes, but I quickly realized that that Clinton in 2002 bore little resemblance to the place Frank Miller was writing back in the '80s, so I just copied the comics instead.
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Old October 10 2012, 05:34 PM   #35
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Re: Daredevil back to Marvel Studios?

Matt Murdock--lawyer to the (super)stars--also works well as a Nick Fury-esque character that can appear across multiple movies even without taking his heroic alter-ego into account.
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Old October 10 2012, 06:30 PM   #36
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Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man aren't "sellers" per se either and yet.....

Sure both have had their moments but overall the length of a characters ongoing series or ability to maintain one isn't a factor for what movie Marvel Studios may choose to do.
I'll believe those two when they actually hit the theaters, not before. Just like I'll believe the rumors about "Cloak & Dagger" on the small screen when it premieres, not before. And I'll be shocked if any of them actually perform well ratings/BO-wise.
Then you won't have long to wait. Both of those are no longer just ideas being kicked around. By 2014 you'll be able to fully believe then. They are no longer in the rumored category like Cloak&Dagger, Runaways, Dr.Strange or Iron Fist.

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I saw a comment from Lauren Shuler Donner today that she'd be glad to work out an Avengers/X-Men screen crossover, but even aside from the legal/financial difficulties, I'm not sure how it would work, since the X-franchise these days seems to be set squarely in the past, and it's hard to see how to move forward from the present of The Last Stand.
Perhaps First Class 2 aka Days of Futures Past is going to allow a way for things to move forward after the events of Last Stand. Perhaps.
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Old October 10 2012, 07:39 PM   #37
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Re: Daredevil back to Marvel Studios?

Well it would be nice if the other "universes" could link up somehow. I mean right now Fox with the X-Men related properties has sorta soft rebooted. Spider-Man has completely rebooted. I know there was even a rumor that the Oscorp tower would make a "cameo" in Avengers and vice versa with Stark Tower.

I mean Marvel is still the company that created the characters and the universe. Sure Fox and Sony have the rights to the movies made with them, but they didn't create the characters and part of the beauty of Marvel is how it's more than simply a universe where like "Character A" is the main hero and "Character B" is the main hero in his universe and such. Spider-Man runs into the X-Men, Tony Stark knows Emma Frost. Matt Murdock represents other heroes in their civilian IDs.

It wouldn't be the first time other studios have collaborated on a property, so why not? I do love the idea of Matt Murdock showing up in Phase 2 as a lawyer who just happens to have a radar sense. Maybe even have some rumors of Daredevil come up in like a newspaper or news segment or something.
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Old October 10 2012, 08:01 PM   #38
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I know there was even a rumor that the Oscorp tower would make a "cameo" in Avengers and vice versa with Stark Tower.
It wasn't just a rumor; it would've happened if time had permitted.

I was paired with Avi Arad and [Amazing Spider-Man producer] Matthew Tolmach for my 1-on-1 [...]

Here’s the story – last week, The Amazing Spider-Man's production designer J Michael Riva passed away after suffering a stroke at the age of 63. Not only did he design the Oscorp Tower for ASM, but he has a staggering resume of awesomeness including The Goonies, The Color Purple, A Few Good Men, Congo, Evolution, and the upcoming Django Unchained.

Oh – And the Iron Man movies.

That design overlap, and the stunning look of the Oscorp Tower (seriously stunning) was enough for Marvel Studios and Sony to have the discussion about inserting Oscorp into The Avengers skyline. The Unified Marvel Manhattan Skyline almost existed.

By the time the Oscorp building was fully designed, The Avengers digital Manhattan was already basically rendered and there was some up-conversion that needed to go down, so – for timing – it was scrapped.
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Old October 10 2012, 08:57 PM   #39
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Re: Daredevil back to Marvel Studios?

How's this for an idea: have a superhero who isn't in New York, or some generic fictional city that often stands in for the same. Bravo for Iron Man 1-2 basing Tony in LA, even if the latter movie does end up in NYC, but between the Avengers, Spidey, a rebooted FF and more, why not let another city have a shot, especially with a minor character?

Which is really all just a prelude to say: Daredevil in San Francisco. Think about it.
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Old October 10 2012, 09:10 PM   #40
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I haven't been to San Fran, does it have lots of tall downtown structures?
I could see Chicago as a replacement city for DD.
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Old October 10 2012, 09:26 PM   #41
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It does; one nice thing about SF is that it's got a pretty sizable downtown, with some pretty high skyscrapers (much higher, say, than the pint-sized ones of Boston, or the non-existent ones of DC), but also has lots of other, very varied neighborhoods. Also, you've got the legitimately still-gritty and grungy Oakland just across the Bay. Fincher got some great mileage out of our Financial District in The Game, for instance.

Sure, Chicago could probably also work, but while it's got some great downtown areas, as seen in Transformers DOTM/TDK, I haven't really gotten the sense that its non-downtown neighborhoods are all that special or distinctive.
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Old October 10 2012, 09:30 PM   #42
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If the ABC SHIELD series is a hit then I think the best way that the other studios who own Marvel rights could then 'link up' would be to use the series as 'promotion' for their movies. Somet type of storyline or appearance from main/minor/villain characters in the show right around the time the movie is coming out.
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Old October 10 2012, 10:01 PM   #43
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I saw a comment from Lauren Shuler Donner today that she'd be glad to work out an Avengers/X-Men screen crossover, but even aside from the legal/financial difficulties, I'm not sure how it would work, since the X-franchise these days seems to be set squarely in the past, and it's hard to see how to move forward from the present of The Last Stand.
Simple.. either completely ignore the abomination that was Last Stand or just go past it and take the very few things with you that were ok (Hank McCoy for example).

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If the ABC SHIELD series is a hit then I think the best way that the other studios who own Marvel rights could then 'link up' would be to use the series as 'promotion' for their movies. Somet type of storyline or appearance from main/minor/villain characters in the show right around the time the movie is coming out.
Please god no! The last thing i want is for any show to become a marketing vehicle for any product.. i hate that with a passion.

I don't have a problem with commercial products appearing onscreen but they way it's done is to shove our nose in it.. these extended 2-3 seconds where the camera lingers on the product and its logo makes me want to hurl ( i nearly walked out of a Brosnan Bond once because it became so unbearable on the nose).
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Old October 28 2012, 11:23 PM   #44
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Daredevil could be the tent-pole property for an entire new tier of Marvel movies. Tie together Daredevil with Power Man and Iron Fist and Punisher using Ben Urich as the link character ala Coulson, with Wilson Fisk as a recurring villain.
I like the idea of adding more non-Avengers films to the MCU, just to broaden it still further, but I'm not sure those other films would really need to build up to a single crossover like Avengers. No reason the whole MCU has to be locked into a single formula. It might be better just to have these films in a common universe and have occasional overlapping elements or characters, or maybe smaller crossovers or guest appearances.

On the other hand, your suggestion here is kind of cool, especially the Ben Urich part. Except I'd be happier if Daredevil and Spider-Man could be under the same roof, movie-rights-wise. After all, Kingpin was originally a Spider-Man character (and so was the Punisher, for that matter), and Urich has often been a semi-regular figure in Spidey comics as well as DD; plus Spidey and DD have often swung in the same circles themselves.
Agreed.. it is a very cool idea and i'd wish they'd make it R rated to really set it apart from the blockbuster Marvel movies, kinda like Marvel Max series that featured the best Punisher series ever by Garth Ennis (and they had the coolest Nick Fury cameo appearance.. drinking, swearing, beating up army generals with his belt and having threeways ). There doesn't need to be a giant team up movie like Avengers but cameos here and there and some storyline across the movies would be cool.

Spidey on the other hand won't revert to Marvel for a loooong time (if ever). They just started their new trilogy and it'll be another 5-6 years before that concludes and who knows what happens then. I don't see the studio letting go of Spider-Man anytime soon since it's a big moneymayker.. Marvel would have to dig very deep into their pockets to buy him out and i don't think they'd want to currently (though with the money they are making with their movies they sure could).
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Old October 28 2012, 11:26 PM   #45
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SONY will never give up the Spider-man film rights. It's a billion dollar franchise for them.
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