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Old October 9 2012, 03:18 AM   #46
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

Someone new should make NewNuTrek, and in it, Enterprise - D should be 179,000,472 m long. Since it's all make believe, it doesn't matter. And btw, it should be able to destroy an entire solar system with one shot and travel between galaxies in mere minutes.
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Old October 9 2012, 03:21 AM   #47
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What if, Gods forbid, they decided to redo the entire Prime Universe with the Alternate One created by Nu-Trek? How do you think each series would differ?

What would Nu-Picard be like commanding the 1613m Enterprise-D (going by the stupidly upgraded scaling of the Nu-Enterprise)? Who would still be on his crew? Who would be different?

Or on DS9? Or Voyager?

ENT is exempt as the timeline changes occured well after 2155.
Who cares, I wouldn't give my money to it
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Old October 9 2012, 04:08 AM   #48
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Who cares, I wouldn't give my money to it
If it were a television show, then you wouldn't have to give your money to it because it would be free. Whether you choose to watch it or not is a different story.
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Old October 9 2012, 05:14 PM   #49
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

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Someone new should make NewNuTrek
If it stars Robin Williams it could be NaNuNaNu Trek.
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Old October 9 2012, 06:21 PM   #50
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

EmperorTiberius wrote: View Post
Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
What if, Gods forbid, they decided to redo the entire Prime Universe with the Alternate One created by Nu-Trek? How do you think each series would differ?

What would Nu-Picard be like commanding the 1613m Enterprise-D (going by the stupidly upgraded scaling of the Nu-Enterprise)? Who would still be on his crew? Who would be different?

Or on DS9? Or Voyager?

ENT is exempt as the timeline changes occured well after 2155.
Who cares, I wouldn't give my money to it
Then why did you respond in the thread? Seriously, on page two I asked people to get back on topic because it was turning into a discussion of the last movie instead of discussing the premise of the OP and things relating to that, and two pages later you come in with two passive-agressive posts in a row. If you aren't interested in the Abramsverse then ignore topics that relate to it. There aren't that many threads in this section that deal with it. Let's keep this a place where people can feel comfortable discussing all aspects of Trek and a place that is fun. Thanks in advance.
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Old October 9 2012, 06:58 PM   #51
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And even if the Picard ancestors all meet and produce the children they originally did, who's to say they'll be the same? Perhaps in the new timeline, some of these couples decide to have children earlier (i.e. nuChekov) or later. Perhaps they have daughters instead of sons. Etc. etc.
NuTNG would recast the characters anyway, thereby altering the appearance, voice, mannerisms etc., does it really make a difference at that point if they're genetically the same characters of if another sperm won the make Jean-Luc race or if he's 5 years older or younger?
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Old October 9 2012, 07:00 PM   #52
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We don't have too much to work with, hopefully Star Trek Into Darkness will help change that, but I'll give it a try.

TNG: Some version of TNG probably happens. The Enterprise might look different and might even be more advanced but most of it should still be the same. The parts that could be different are the stories that involve the Klingons and the Romulans (depending on what the new films do with them) and the Borg, if they happen to appear earlier. In the new timeline there might not have been a battle at Nerendra III, depending upon how different the political situation is, and the "C" might've stayed in service right up until the "D" was commissioned.

DS9: The Prophets live in the past, present, and future. They're immune to changes in the timeline because they exist in all points everywhen. If linear reality changes around them, they'd still become instantly aware of what will happen because they're already there and they'll immediately have a new plan. Sisko would still exist or, if not, someone else from Earth -- or anywhere not of Bajor -- would still be created with the help of the Prophets. Said person will still go through a set of circumstances leading them to Bajor. Whether or not Wolf 359 would be what leads to it would be hard to say.

VOY: Would be the least affected. The Delta Quadrant is away from everything else that has happened, is happening, or will happen in the rest of Star Trek. At least until Starfleet is advanced enough to reach that quadrant on its own. For the sake of argument, let's say it wouldn't happen until a century after the series is set, as Q said in "Deathwish". I doubt New Trek will touch the Cardassians, so the Maquis situation wouldn't change.

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Old October 9 2012, 07:12 PM   #53
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

Maybe there are no Prophets in the alternate timeline.
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Old October 9 2012, 07:17 PM   #54
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^ It could be, but I doubt it. Weren't the opening credits of 'In a Mirror, Darkly' implying that the divergence occurred during, or roughly equivalent to, World War I?
The credits were fun but since they contradicted my personal canon, I wrote them off almost immediately. However, it did imply a timeline divergence (well before WWI since there were sailing ships and even some kind of primitive raft) so it supports the overall idea of branching realities.

Besides, if the altered reality in "City..." was the Mirror timeline, then wouldn't Kirk and crew have detected the ISS Enterprise in orbit? There was NOTHING up there when they came back through the Guardian.
The ISS Enterprise was in another part of the galaxy at the time, oppressing some innocent alien world for fun and profit.

Mirror Universe credits - if I wanted to be picky, I could point out that the Terran Empire logo doesn't show up till the WWII footage.

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Old October 9 2012, 07:31 PM   #55
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In the alternate reality, Guinan is in an insane asylum, jabbering about things being "all wrong" and "not the way it's supposed to be."

Ten Forward on the Enterprise is run by Picard's second choice for the post, temporally displaced former WWE wrestler Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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Old October 9 2012, 07:31 PM   #56
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So, leaving aside the side issue of the MU, my hunch on how to best carry forward the idea of an alternate timeline in a TV series is to continue the idea that the characters are preteraturally aware that their timeline has diverged from what it should be and are working to somehow set it right.

Which isn't my first choice or my hundreth choice for a premise for a new TV series. It's best to just leave it to Abrams to re-merge the timelines and if he fails to do so, the TV series shold ignore the issue entirely.

Otherwise it's just a big boring reset button. TOS was recast in the movies for its PR value but none of the other series have that awareness and the characters are not as iconic, so let's just have a new cast of characters.
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Old October 9 2012, 08:18 PM   #57
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I suspect the NuFederation wouldn't have the Prime Federation's staying power with the premature death of Robau, resulting in an incalculable loss of decades of ass-kicking influence.
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Old October 10 2012, 12:32 AM   #58
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Let's see, Romulus is gone, Vulcans are emotional and fall in love easy, Uhura and Spock are lovers, cadets get promoted to captains and commanders.

They still drove cars in the 23rd century, humans are rude to each other...

Nothing's changed, why not?

Though I agree, they do have to find a new way to present Trek in order for the series to survive on TV.
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Old October 10 2012, 01:01 AM   #59
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

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I suspect the NuFederation wouldn't have the Prime Federation's staying power with the premature death of Robau, resulting in an incalculable loss of decades of ass-kicking influence.
Word up, yo.

Then again...the Romulans struck down Robau, who will now become more powerful than they could possibly imagine.
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Old October 10 2012, 02:00 AM   #60
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Let's see, Romulus is gone, Vulcans are emotional and fall in love easy, Uhura and Spock are lovers, cadets get promoted to captains and commanders.

They still drove cars in the 23rd century, humans are rude to each other...

Nothing's changed, why not?

Though I agree, they do have to find a new way to present Trek in order for the series to survive on TV.
Romulus is still there. It's Vulcan that's gone. Vulcans have always been emotional. (Spock especially), there was a spark between Spock and Uhura back in TOS, I'll give you the last one. Though McCoy is the only person who seems to go from cadet to (Lt) Commander. But being a doctor its not unusual.

Why wouldn't people drive cars in the 23rd Century and why would they stop being rude? Rude wasn't unknown in TOS. One might find examples in almost every episode.
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