Gotta admit, Earth Starfleet Command's not very diverse

[Nerys Myk]

Zombie Redshirt wrote:

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So the Trekverse has a Soviet Union that never fell, a Southern Confederacy that apparently rose again and Scottish separatists gaining independence. How did this world ever unite again?

Nukes and aliens, man. It's a recipe for unity!

[MacLeod]

T'Girl wrote:

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McCoy never specifically mentions where he was from, Scotty did.

Wow, how did that enter this discussion?

And your point is?

I could say I'm from Aberdeen, Scotland. It wouldn't mean I was less British. Just that I'm from the part of the UK that is Scotland. Scotty was just proud of his Scottish heritge.

It would be like an American saying I'm from Iowa.

[6079SmithW]

Zombie Redshirt wrote:

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So the Trekverse has a Soviet Union that never fell, a Southern Confederacy that apparently rose again and Scottish separatists gaining independence. How did this world ever unite again?

Don't forget the Irish Reunification of 2024.
In the same episode Crusher confirms that she is a North American but doesn't specify from which nation state on that continent.

Trek was always vague when it came to defining the extent to which modern nations continued their existence into Trek's time. Going by the accounts of various alien species earth should be comprised of city states.

[horatio83]

United Earth sounds fairly clear to me: good, centralized, progressive rule with a moderately federal structure below. It cannot be too federal as you cannot get rid of hunger, war on so on via letting every nation or group playing its own game.

[teacake]

Science got rid of hunger and supposedly the knowing we are not alone in the universe got rid of war.

Personally I think the MU response to first contact is more likely.

[R. Star]

teacock wrote:

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Science got rid of hunger and supposedly the knowing we are not alone in the universe got rid of war.

Personally I think the MU response to first contact is more likely.

This would explain why Starfleet is so western oriented if it was Americans who killed the Vulcans, stole their technology and 'united' the world.

[teacake]

They should have landed in Australia, as long as they had some Romulan ale somewhere on board everything would have been cool.

[T'Girl]

Zombie Redshirt wrote:

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... a Southern Confederacy that apparently rose again and Scottish separatists gaining independence. How did this world ever unite again?

Good fences, make for good neighbors.

Having a United Earth apparently doesn't mean blandly mushing into a single national and cultural entity. From Picard's comments to Riker in The Defector, America as a country (and not a state) still exists in the 24th century.

[Timo]

In the same episode Crusher confirms that she is a North American but doesn't specify from which nation state on that continent.

Apparently, none. Instead, she comes from that part of North America that is located on the Moon ("Conundrum").

Timo Saloniemi

[Finn]

^That guy talked as if George Washington was her countryman. As for the moon, that was where she was born. I think it was implied her family spent generations in the States before going to the stars.

MacLeod wrote:

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Shall we examine.

And of course there is Voyager

Janeway - American Female
Tuvok - Vulcan Male
Kim - Not Known
Paris - American Male

Harry Kim was born in South Carolina

[T'Girl]

Timo wrote:

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Apparently, none. Instead, she comes from that part of North America that is located on the Moon ("Conundrum").

The thing from the Bayou wrote:

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^That guy talked as if George Washington was her countryman. As for the moon, that was where she was born.

America could have established colonies on the moon, that grew and eventual became off-world States in the Union.

That way Beverly could be a countryman of George Washington, and have been born on the moon.

[starburst]

teacock wrote:

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Personally I think the MU response to first contact is more likely.

Same here, and even if it didnt straight away its likely the first set of aliens to suggest anything in our history didnt quite happen the way certain books say it did, there would be war.

I thought the Enterprise crew were fairly diverse, Starfleet Command we only saw a handfull of senior officers and a couple of security guards. If you watch any of the series the crews sometimes look fairly non diverse if your only paying attention to skin colour.