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Old September 12 2012, 04:38 PM   #31
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Re: What exactly is Regeneration like to the Doctor?

I felt that the Ninth Doctor's explanation was geared more to reassure/placate Rose. The Doctor lies, we know that for certain. He obviously wasn't the same man with a new face. Same memories, yes. But a very different personality and temperament. He was being unusually frank with Wilf. Just my take on it, and I may be over-rationalising a tad.
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Old September 12 2012, 05:25 PM   #32
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I thought it curious that Ten should, while his regeneration was pending, talk about it being like death and a new man swanning off; after all, when he first appeared, having regenerated from Nine, he told Rose that he was exactly the same man (as Nine, with a new face.
I think Ten was a little bit precious and narcissistic about the whole thing, which is not entirely out of character. I'd wager that if the tenth Doctor ever met the eleventh, they would have a Second/Third relationship.
OF course, 10 was also doing this in part because RTD wanted Tennant's departure to be A Big Deal to viewers and to tug on our heartstrings.

Re the Ten-Eleven dynamic, I liked a scene when Eleven appeared in The Sarah Jane Adventures. SJ asked him how his predecessor went - he didn't really reply, just fixed her with this look. Which could have been interepreted in several ways. But I got the impression that he didn't want to think about how Ten went, for various reasons.
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Old September 12 2012, 07:55 PM   #33
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Re: What exactly is Regeneration like to the Doctor?

I think the reason 9 said to Rose he would be the same man but with a different face was to comfort her, and she wouldn't freak outas much. But 10s philosiphy is probably the most honest, seeing he was the only doctor to die without a companion (apart from 7-8 but he was not awake for most of it, and we didn't see 2-3s. I think Tennant is definately the most human doctor, probably why he's my favourate.) I always enjoy watching the regenerations, especialy 10s, I hope smiths regeneration is really epic.
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Old September 12 2012, 09:50 PM   #34
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I thought it curious that Ten should, while his regeneration was pending, talk about it being like death and a new man swanning off; after all, when he first appeared, having regenerated from Nine, he told Rose that he was exactly the same man (as Nine, with a new face.
I think Ten was a little bit precious and narcissistic about the whole thing, which is not entirely out of character. I'd wager that if the tenth Doctor ever met the eleventh, they would have a Second/Third relationship.
That idea reminds me of "9" & "10" in this video (about 00:50 in).

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Old September 14 2012, 10:57 PM   #35
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Re: What exactly is Regeneration like to the Doctor?

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I thought it curious that Ten should, while his regeneration was pending, talk about it being like death and a new man swanning off; after all, when he first appeared, having regenerated from Nine, he told Rose that he was exactly the same man (as Nine, with a new face.
I think Ten was a little bit precious and narcissistic about the whole thing, which is not entirely out of character. I'd wager that if the tenth Doctor ever met the eleventh, they would have a Second/Third relationship.
I wouldn't have so much minded the 10th Doctor being so precious about the whole thing if it didn't seem like that attitude also passed on to many of the fans. Even after more than 2 years, there are still lots of new fans that seem unable to switch gears from Tennant to Smith. (But then, it seems that most of those are female fans, who have... other reasons for preferring Tennant.)
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Old September 14 2012, 11:01 PM   #36
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Re: What exactly is Regeneration like to the Doctor?

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I thought it curious that Ten should, while his regeneration was pending, talk about it being like death and a new man swanning off; after all, when he first appeared, having regenerated from Nine, he told Rose that he was exactly the same man (as Nine, with a new face.
I think Ten was a little bit precious and narcissistic about the whole thing, which is not entirely out of character. I'd wager that if the tenth Doctor ever met the eleventh, they would have a Second/Third relationship.
I wouldn't have so much minded the 10th Doctor being so precious about the whole thing if it didn't seem like that attitude also passed on to many of the fans. Even after more than 2 years, there are still lots of new fans that seem unable to switch gears from Tennant to Smith. (But then, it seems that most of those are female fans, who have... other reasons for preferring Tennant.)
Because of the rumor Billie Piper Started?
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Old September 14 2012, 11:24 PM   #37
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I think Ten was a little bit precious and narcissistic about the whole thing, which is not entirely out of character. I'd wager that if the tenth Doctor ever met the eleventh, they would have a Second/Third relationship.
I wouldn't have so much minded the 10th Doctor being so precious about the whole thing if it didn't seem like that attitude also passed on to many of the fans. Even after more than 2 years, there are still lots of new fans that seem unable to switch gears from Tennant to Smith. (But then, it seems that most of those are female fans, who have... other reasons for preferring Tennant.)
Because of the rumor Billie Piper Started?
I was thinking more of just his general hipster handsomeness but whatever.
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Old September 17 2012, 08:40 PM   #38
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Re: What exactly is Regeneration like to the Doctor?

Shoot, in some ways I've never quite "switched gears" from Tom Baker and I never even saw the show until 1982, a full year after Tom had exited the series.

But back on topic, actually, I rather imagined it like something akin to a more permanent form of multiple personality disorder, one where the former personality never resurfaces (unless, of course, the series ever pulls a casting stunt by bringing back a former actor).

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Old October 1 2012, 11:07 AM   #39
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I started Doctor Who with the Ninth Doctor and this is how I had always interpreted regeneration...."same man, new face." I was never really comfortable with Ten's explanation of regeneration in his last episode.

On a different note, I don't think the Eleventh Doctor has that dread of regeneration. In the episode Let's Kill Hitler where River poisons The Doctor, he goes back into the TARDIS to locate a cure. When he learns there isn't one is says something along the lines of "fine, I'll just regenerate then." Maybe were are going back to the "same man new face" philosophy?

Maybe its similar to how someones perceptions and opinions about death may change? The doctor might just not really be sure what actually happens to him during regenerations. He might just think about it differently from incarnation to incarnation. So if 9 was absolutley sure that he would still be the same guy after regeneration, just different looks and a bit different personality...I don´t see why 10 couldn´t feel different about it...and think of it as actually dieing as a "soul" (for lack of a better term) and a new soul beeing born that gets his memories.
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Old October 3 2012, 10:54 PM   #40
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10 is awesome cuz he actually realized what it meant to DIE.
Unlike everyone else who just does it and gets on with their lives as if nothing happened.
Poor 10 :'(
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Old October 6 2012, 08:32 PM   #41
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I found it interesting in "Let's Kill Hitler" and most recently in "The Angels Take Manhattan" that they express concern about "using up" regeneration energy. River uses all of her remaining regenerations to save the Doctor's life, and the Doctor uses some of his regeneration energy to heal River's wrist. River freaks out about this. What would happen if he had used too much? Would he not be able to regenerate? Would he regenerate wrong?
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Old October 6 2012, 08:38 PM   #42
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I found it interesting in "Let's Kill Hitler" and most recently in "The Angels Take Manhattan" that they express concern about "using up" regeneration energy. River uses all of her remaining regenerations to save the Doctor's life, and the Doctor uses some of his regeneration energy to heal River's wrist. River freaks out about this. What would happen if he had used too much? Would he not be able to regenerate? Would he regenerate wrong?
That's a good question because in "Rise Of The Cybermen" The Doctor uses regeneration energy to power the TARDIS back up. He says it took ten years off his life. So maybe that's the only consequence, a shorter life span.
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Old October 7 2012, 01:01 PM   #43
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as someone else pointed out, the Doctor's regenerations seems to be atypical because they are the result of a violent 'death' - not only does Romana spend her time picking and choosing between bodies but neither her nor the Doctor seem concerned that is a dangerous or risky process - indeed it seems as risky as trying on new clothes.
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Old October 7 2012, 01:13 PM   #44
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Ten did comment that it feels like dying.

I think he said that in Last of the Time Lords.
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as someone else pointed out, the Doctor's regenerations seems to be atypical because they are the result of a violent 'death' - not only does Romana spend her time picking and choosing between bodies but neither her nor the Doctor seem concerned that is a dangerous or risky process - indeed it seems as risky as trying on new clothes.
I have a vague recollection of a Time Lord Spirit guide of sorts that would guide a Time Lord through a regeneration.
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