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View Poll Results: Who won the first debate?
Barack Obama 6 15.79%
Mitt Romney 32 84.21%
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Old October 6 2012, 06:17 AM   #61
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I actually like to see them in this type of forum to see how they communicate. I think that Obama came off as looking like he was reaching for answers sometimes, mainly because of his speaking style of uhh...uhh.
I've always thought he speaks that way because he's actually thinking about what he wants to say, rather than vomiting out whatever talking points were handed to him that morning by his handler (like most politicians).
John Stewart said he also thought the same thing, but now realizes that Obama is thinking more along the lines of "I like food. My kids are nice."
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Old October 6 2012, 09:47 AM   #62
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Not "Michelle! Yowza!"?
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Old October 6 2012, 09:58 AM   #63
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that was a lame, lazy response, you are right, sorry.

what I meant to say was you seem to have put a lot of thought into something you don't think matters very much.
Their decisions will have ramifications no matter which one wins.
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Old October 6 2012, 01:39 PM   #64
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interesting unemployment job number was released. 7.8% The lowest its gotten during President Obama's administration. But of course both the lefties and righties will each spin it their own ways.
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Old October 6 2012, 02:28 PM   #65
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Romney won on being energetic while Obama won on substance.
Obviously, style trumps substance these days.
Sometimes, I think Obama did it on purpose to expose Romney's true colors.

In the end, it was bullshit that won the debate.
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Old October 6 2012, 02:31 PM   #66
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I heard Romney won though.
I heard that too. I didn't watched myself. IMHO, it was crap that won the debate not Romney.
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Old October 6 2012, 02:33 PM   #67
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I did have a chuckle at what Jay Leno said the other night.

"The only people who thought Obama won? The replacement refs."

Still, I'm looking forward to the Biden-Ryan debate on Thursday night. It's gonna be more exciting and fun if for no other reason than Biden himself and I really, really hope he goes a little Attack Dog on Ryan for his draconian Medicare and social safety net proposals.

There's less at stake and you don't have a Democrat who has to worry about looking Presidential, so I want Biden to take off the gloves and expose what a two-faced, Ayn Rand worshipping empty suit Ryan is. A good night for Biden would also energize Obama.
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Old October 6 2012, 03:04 PM   #68
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Romney won on being energetic while Obama won on substance.
Obviously, style trumps substance these days.
Sometimes, I think Obama did it on purpose to expose Romney's true colors.

In the end, it was bullshit that won the debate.
I would prefer 2-3 moderators who are civilised and not partisan hacks + Gary Johnson and Jill Stein to be part of the debate. I don't know that much about Stein but Gary would beat Romney up.
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Old October 6 2012, 05:12 PM   #69
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interesting unemployment job number was released. 7.8% The lowest its gotten during President Obama's administration. But of course both the lefties and righties will each spin it their own ways.
That one is a stumper. We added 117,000 jobs and it bumped the unemployment rate by 0.3% (down from 8.1%). To someone with a calculator, correcting for the workforce participation ratio, it means our total population is now lower than Great Britain's. Where'd eveybody go?
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Old October 6 2012, 07:40 PM   #70
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that was a lame, lazy response, you are right, sorry.

what I meant to say was you seem to have put a lot of thought into something you don't think matters very much.
Their decisions will have ramifications no matter which one wins.
Yes. Presidents do cause things to happen.
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Old October 7 2012, 12:41 PM   #71
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I am glad that we agree.
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Old October 7 2012, 06:34 PM   #72
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I'm starting a rumour that at the beginning of the next Presidential debate they're going to introduce Romney as "the returning Jeopardy champion."

If the there's a clear winner they should have Don Pardo do a voice-over saying the loser gets some Turtlewax and a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni, "the San Francisco treat!"
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Old October 7 2012, 07:01 PM   #73
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i might remember incorrectly from a bloggingheads recap. Did Romney really accuse Obama of being to close to big banks and suggested breaking up some of them?

I think most fiscal cons would had prefered the swedish solution instead of the let's give everybody golden parachutes aproach.
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Old October 7 2012, 07:31 PM   #74
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He definitely did, arguing that "too big to fail" is a problem and that over a hundred smaller, local banks did fail. I believe his attack was that Obama had protected Wall Street at the expense of Main Street.
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Old October 9 2012, 02:50 AM   #75
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If he would not be romney i might even belive him. He has the right background to be independent from Wall Steet, but lacks the moral compass.
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