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Old October 6 2012, 10:24 AM   #16
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

It's different... it just is. There is no other in verse explanation unless you want to start thinking Abrams is a Q.
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Old October 6 2012, 10:25 AM   #17
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

I'm actually thinking that there won't be a DS9 or a VOY in this new timeline. Sure, some of the various elements will still be there (such as the Cardassians and the Borg), but I'm inclined to believe that the two timelines sharply diverged from one another after Star Trek XI. Wolf 359 may not happen (or the battle will take place somewhere else at a different point in time); Sisko may never be assigned to DS9 and discover the Bajoran wormhole; and Janeway may command a ship other than the Voyager and won't be stranded in the Delta Quadrant. In think TOS was the "shatterpoint" in this new timeline and everything afterward is a blank slate. Even TNG could be very different.

In the prime universe, though, everything happened in TNG, DS9, and VOY as we saw it.
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Old October 6 2012, 10:39 AM   #18
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

We'll see a NuKirk vs Borg movie before we see TNG NuTrek.
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Old October 6 2012, 10:44 AM   #19
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

then there would be spaceships and teleporter beams and handheld death rays and handsome/sexy people in flattering colorful outfits and aesop-laden aliens and stuff
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Old October 6 2012, 10:47 AM   #20
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

One thing to think about is that the NuTrek universe could very possibly find itself "bound" to the prime universe much like the Mirror universe did. There was really no logical reason for "our" Terrans to be at DS9, but they were. Perhaps the transition of the prime Spock to the Nu universe connected them so while there could be significant differences in the timelines, there could also be significant similarities...
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Old October 6 2012, 10:48 AM   #21
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In an interview on Trekmovie.com months ago, the writers used the butterfly effect to describe the changes in the timeline. They said that Star Trek was the butterfly flapping it's wings, and Star Trek Into Darkness is the resultant tornado.

Now, if destroying seven starships, 47 Klingon warbirds and the entire planet Vulcan are just wings flapping...
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Old October 6 2012, 10:49 AM   #22
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My god.

That could mean...

ASHTON KUTCHER

(This is the part where you scream in abject horror)
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Old October 6 2012, 11:00 AM   #23
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

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The sad thing is a Kutcheresque scenario would be more believable than a black hole thing not crushing whatever goes back in time through it.
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Old October 6 2012, 11:13 AM   #24
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The sad thing is a Kutcheresque scenario would be more believable than a black hole thing not crushing whatever goes back in time through it.
http://curiosity.discovery.com/quest...es-time-travel

http://www.wired.com/science/discove.../2003/04/58359

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Old October 6 2012, 03:55 PM   #25
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At first I thought the thread title was "What If It All Went Nude?"
Seriously.

They REALLY need to change that annoying abbriviation. How hard is it to type "new" anyway? Which, considering that the movie is three years old, is no longer correct anyhow.

Okay, rant over, to answer the actual question, I don't know.
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Old October 6 2012, 05:25 PM   #26
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The sad thing is a Kutcheresque scenario would be more believable than a black hole thing not crushing whatever goes back in time through it.
http://curiosity.discovery.com/quest...es-time-travel

http://www.wired.com/science/discove.../2003/04/58359

Speculation. Let's just suppose they are magic time portals... they still have more g-forces than the biggest stars out there. They can't even keep it consistent within the frame of the movie being the black holes suddenly had gravitational effects at the end where before the Narada and the Jellyfish just flew in and out of them easy as you please.
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Old October 6 2012, 05:34 PM   #27
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

Let's all try to get back to the actual topic of the thread.
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Old October 6 2012, 05:45 PM   #28
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Speculation.
In speculative fiction? The horror!


Back on topic, in the nuTNG universe everyone will be younger and better looking. And hopefully nuWorf's muscles won't be sewn into his uniform.
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Old October 6 2012, 06:41 PM   #29
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Re: What If It All Went Nu?

I doubt any of the characters from TNG, DS9 or Voyager will even exist at all in the Abrams timeline. The butterfly effect will pretty much guarantee that their ancestors' lives will be so different as to make it impossible that the same people could be born at the same times and even to the same parents.

Look at Chekov, for example. He wasn't even born when Nero appeared in 2233, and while we do have a version of him in the Abramsverse, he looks different and is a different age (he's older). So if this can happen to Chekov, it can happen to anyone else.
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Old October 6 2012, 06:58 PM   #30
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I doubt any of the characters from TNG, DS9 or Voyager will even exist at all in the Abrams timeline. The butterfly effect will pretty much guarantee that their ancestors' lives will be so different as to make it impossible that the same people could be born at the same times and even to the same parents.
Logically, that would seem to be the case, but the butterfly effect is highly variable in the STAR TREK universe.

Just look at "Mirror, Mirror," where everybody is more or less in the same place at the same time, despite fundamental changes to history and civilization . . . .
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