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Old September 27 2012, 01:22 PM   #46
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Re: Way of The Warrior: Battle with the Klingons

But the torpedo launchers on the NX-01 Enterprise were only a couple of meters long
...And fired sublight projectiles as far as we can tell (IIRC, the few warp firings involved the launcher in the rear pod, of unknown length, and aft firing at warp might not require acceleration to begin with). Perhaps the barrel is related to the warp acceleration ability observed with, say, the E-D launcher?

Similarly, the long barrel might be unnecessary for most of the DS9 launchers, and perhaps only present in the original weapon sail units if at all.

the TOS 1701 ones were probably smaller
...Unless tilted. After all, the Voyager ones would appear to be canted down quite a bit, or else the shots would not clear the primary hull.

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Old September 27 2012, 01:36 PM   #47
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Also the Galaxy Class torpedo launchers were a jack of all trades, designed to fire not only torpedoes but probes as well, to say nothing of being able to burst fire ten torpedoes in one shot. A larger launcher might be needed for such wide and varied loads, but if your just spitting torpedoes like the station was, then a shorter launcher could very well be possible. There might also be an issue or range, considering a longer launch tube might be able to impart more speed upon the torpedo to increase it's range, where as the station might not need such great distances.

Also, if memory serves, the torpedo launchers aboard the Defiant, at least the ones depicted in the the TM, were no where near 20-40 meters long and they were firing Quantums.

That being said, Drexler claims the rotary launchers were Micro Torpedoes launchers: http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/...0%93-weaponry/
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Old September 27 2012, 01:46 PM   #48
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Also, if memory serves, the torpedo launchers aboard the Defiant, at least the ones depicted in the the TM, were no where near 20-40 meters long and they were firing Quantums.
OTOH, the TM and the onscreen MSDs did portray those launchers as having the generic shape familiar from TNG - the long main barrel accompanied by another, parallel one to create the visual resemblance to today's guns with the prominent recoil absorbers, plus a loader doodad atop.

This might indeed be but one way to put together a torpedo launcher, but a favored way for starships nevertheless. Some of the launchers of DS9 might be simple revolver magazines without any real barrel attached, firing "peppermill" style, while others might have all sorts of fancy arrangements we cannot even imagine but which necessitate the funny box shape witnessed on those docking pylon weapon stations. And some of the "secondary" launchers on the E-E, apparently incapable of having long barrels, might be "point defense" torpedo turrets as well.

I say the more diversity, the better. It's sort of sad that the mighty starships have the thrilling specifications of being armed with "phasers" and "torpedoes" and... Well, that's it. And worse still, that's all it can be. Inserting at least some hint of variety, such as "Type 8 phasers" or "Mk III microtorpedoes", puts the thrill back in the technobabble.

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Old October 2 2012, 01:06 AM   #49
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Re: Way of The Warrior: Battle with the Klingons

My big thing:

I don't recall the Klingons ever having pink blood in the series. It's always normal human red.

Also, aren't the Klingons supposed to be extremely strong and tough - not as warriors (though that too), but as a species? Isn't that the whole point of Worf getting beat up all the time - to prove that the enemy is even stronger than a Klingon? Yet they get taken out more easily than most of the human fighters, with the exception of any headbutts.
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Old October 2 2012, 07:40 AM   #50
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We never really get told that Klingons would be particularly strong. Yes, they endure beating, and TNG "Ethics" establishes redundant systems that give a biological advantage wrt combat wounds - but muscular strength has never been something the Klingons are known for. It's just "warrior fierceness".

As pointed out on occasion, in ST3, Kruge enjoys demonstrating his personal strength. But that quite possibly indicates he is an exception, which is the very reason he enjoys the demonstrations in front of his fellow Klingons.

Purple blood never reappears after ST6, that's true. Perhaps it only turned pink because of the type of weapon that hit Gorkon - and the reason the blood of the masked Starfleet assassin at the end was immediately recognized as non-Klingon was not the color, but some other attribute?

Or perhaps Gorkon was so drunk or high on another substance of his preference that his blood chemistry exhibited a color change?

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Old October 2 2012, 04:39 PM   #51
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My big thing:

I don't recall the Klingons ever having pink blood in the series. It's always normal human red.

Also, aren't the Klingons supposed to be extremely strong and tough - not as warriors (though that too), but as a species? Isn't that the whole point of Worf getting beat up all the time - to prove that the enemy is even stronger than a Klingon? Yet they get taken out more easily than most of the human fighters, with the exception of any headbutts.
Well the pink blood came from TUC.
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