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Old September 28 2012, 03:30 PM   #46
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Re: Why No "Captains' Table" Story For Spock?

Thanks! I remember now Greg's Carey-style April story being mentioned here before, but I'd totally forgotten about it. I've got to hunt down a copy of Enterprise Logs...
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Old September 28 2012, 07:02 PM   #47
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Re: Why No "Captains' Table" Story For Robau?

To include Captain Robau is a gorgeous idea!

And you can include him without troubling the Alternate Universe, simply by setting the story firmly in the main timeline, i.e. with the Kelvin at Earth in 2233 (so Kirk's mother can beam down to Iowa in time) and not being destroyed.

I like the idea because it sheds light on the early lost era 2161-2245. I know there is a fan fic Star Trek: Kelvin, nevertheless I'd like to read an official version.

Others pro's include that we could learn more about the two cool aliens aboard Kelvin (the helmsman and the Cygnian(?) doctor).

/my two cents
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Old September 29 2012, 02:00 AM   #48
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Re: Why No "Captains' Table" Story For Robau?

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we could learn more about the two cool aliens aboard Kelvin (the helmsman

Alnschloss K'Bentayr of Monchezke by Therin of Andor, on Flickr

... and the Cygnian(?) doctor).
Yeah, people have speculated she is a TAS Cygnian:


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Alien doctor from Star Trek (2009) by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
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Old September 29 2012, 06:43 AM   #49
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Until I get my stories starring Captain J.T. Esteban and Captain Styles, I REFUSE to spend any of my hard earned money on ANY Captain's Table stories
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Old September 29 2012, 10:42 AM   #50
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To include Captain Robau is a gorgeous idea!

And you can include him without troubling the Alternate Universe, simply by setting the story firmly in the main timeline, i.e. with the Kelvin at Earth in 2233 (so Kirk's mother can beam down to Iowa in time) and not being destroyed.
Yeah, but whatever timeline they're in, the Kelvin characters are still Bad Robot's creations, so I doubt it'll happen without the same oversight the IDW comics and S&S YA novels are getting.
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Old September 29 2012, 01:13 PM   #51
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Yeah, but whatever timeline they're in, the Kelvin characters are still Bad Robot's creations, so I doubt it'll happen without the same oversight the IDW comics and S&S YA novels are getting.
I see. Too bad, because it is a perfect opportunity to flesh out that era. Even if/when one of our authors writes about the 2230s again, s/he won't be able to use the most iconic characters from that era.
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Old September 29 2012, 02:32 PM   #52
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I see. Too bad, because it is a perfect opportunity to flesh out that era. Even if/when one of our authors writes about the 2230s again, s/he won't be able to use the most iconic characters from that era.
It won't be a "forever" ban. Be patient.

Who are you counting as "iconic", apart from Robau? 'Cos George Sr and Winona Kirk have appeared in several ST novels.
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Old September 29 2012, 07:34 PM   #53
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It won't be a "forever" ban. Be patient.

Who are you counting as "iconic", apart from Robau? 'Cos George Sr and Winona Kirk have appeared in several ST novels.
No forever ban? Hopefully...

And with 'iconic characters', I count the ship (because ships are valuable characters, too) and, to a lesser, extent, the cool aliens. Will President Bacco ever address an Monchezkean during Council session? Or Keenser's people?

I like species consistency. Where species don't just exist for one novel/episode but are part of the universe (positive example: Zaldans). Even though the timelines are separate, these species must exist in both.
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Old September 29 2012, 10:42 PM   #54
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We've had plenty of little easter egg-like references to the last movie in recent novels. But they're staying away from blantantly featuring anything from it.

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Old September 30 2012, 12:07 AM   #55
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Until I get my stories starring Captain J.T. Esteban and Captain Styles, I REFUSE to spend any of my hard earned money on ANY Captain's Table stories
Styles was an ass.

An Esteban story seems interesting, as I'd like to see what he was like on a daily basis. He seemed extremely conservative during The Search for Spock, but it's hard to know if that was due to his command style or the sensitive nature of Grissom's mission. Esteban was, apparently, a close friend of both Kirk and Spock, though this was never stated on screen.
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Old September 30 2012, 12:15 AM   #56
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Will President Bacco ever address an Monchezkean during Council session?
Depends on the authors, and how sharp the people scrutinizing at CBS Licensing are, if there's a problem. There's no ban on referencing the new movie and Monchezkea wasn't actually mentioned onscreen in the last movie so it's not "canonical". What scrutineer is going to red pencil the term and add a note, "Please choose another planet name; Star Trek has not established that this planet exists in the 24th century universe of Star Trek." Richard Arnold doesn't scrutineer the manuscripts any more.

Peter David used to love slipping things past RA!

Or Keenser's people?
Hard to reference a race without a name. But... his origins are due to be explored in the next comic! (I actually thought he looked a bit like the desert dwellers of "Nemesis", where the B-4 parts were retrieved.)

I like species consistency. Where species don't just exist for one novel/episode but are part of the universe (positive example: Zaldans). Even though the timelines are separate, these species must exist in both.
Sure and it'll happen. We didn't see many of the ST III bar aliens ever resurface because no one ever named them. Arex and M'Ress's species names came from a Lincoln Enterprise's mini-biographies and Alan Dean Foster's episode adaptations of TAS. TMP's alien races were named by Robert Fletcher, the costume designer, and ST IV's aliens were named by FASA's RPG sourcebook for ST IV (and a lone photo caption by Kirk Thatcher of an Efrosian on an official publicity still, preserving the Mel Efros homage).

When/if the JJ aliens end up with species/planet names, it's easier for the book authors to acknowledge those aliens.
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Old September 30 2012, 06:00 AM   #57
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Hard to reference a race without a name. But... his [Keenser] origins are due to be explored in the next comic! (I actually thought he looked a bit like the desert dwellers of "Nemesis", where the B-4 parts were retrieved.)
Kolarans.
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Old September 30 2012, 02:44 PM   #58
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We've had plenty of little easter egg-like references to the last movie in recent novels. But they're staying away from blantantly featuring anything from it.
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When/if the JJ aliens end up with species/planet names, it's easier for the book authors to acknowledge those aliens.
Thanks for the explanations! That makes sense and I'm glad the universes are not destined to shun each other (at least, concerning tidbits like species, etc.).

I've hear of the Keenser comic and look forward to it.

BTW, how about a story by Captain Braxton?

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Old October 2 2012, 03:37 AM   #59
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Thanks! I remember now Greg's Carey-style April story being mentioned here before, but I'd totally forgotten about it. I've got to hunt down a copy of Enterprise Logs...
As of this writing, retailers at the Amazon Marketplace are selling used copies for ONE CENT!

Essentially, you just have to pay the S&H.
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Old October 2 2012, 05:20 AM   #60
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It's also available as both a Kindle and a Nook E-book.
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