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Old September 28 2012, 11:48 AM   #1
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Game AI passes Turing Test

In tech news, killer bots pass the Turing Test... Sort of. http://www.gizmag.com/turing-test-ut...otprize/24308/
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Old September 28 2012, 01:29 PM   #2
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Yeah well.. not sold.

Turing Test is very far off.. i guess they are just well programmed bots where you can set parameters and variables that get filled with data as the game goes on.

The same with chess programs.. i'd not call the intelligent but their ability to process data and extrapolate moves is far beyond a human's capability leading to believe they are intelligent when in fact they're not.
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Old September 28 2012, 01:52 PM   #3
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They can be "intelligent" without being "conscious."
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Old September 28 2012, 02:38 PM   #4
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So more realistic NPCs to shoot?
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Old September 28 2012, 02:57 PM   #5
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Yeah, but now it's murder instead of harmless fun!

Just start letting these things play CIV or something, it if any of them start to trend towards production of killer robots, pull the plug on that one...
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Old September 28 2012, 07:55 PM   #6
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Old September 28 2012, 11:55 PM   #7
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Yeah, but now it's murder instead of harmless fun!

Just start letting these things play CIV or something, it if any of them start to trend towards production of killer robots, pull the plug on that one...
Technically speaking I think it's only murder if you delete the program. Killing it in-game is the digital equivalent of winning an argument.
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Old September 29 2012, 01:49 AM   #8
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It's about time. I've been waiting for decent AI for the past 20 years.
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Old September 29 2012, 02:49 AM   #9
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Yeah well.. not sold.

Turing Test is very far off.. i guess they are just well programmed bots where you can set parameters and variables that get filled with data as the game goes on.

The same with chess programs.. i'd not call the intelligent but their ability to process data and extrapolate moves is far beyond a human's capability leading to believe they are intelligent when in fact they're not.
The thing about the Turing test is that they don't have to be actually intelligent (capable of connecting the dots), they just have to "exhibit" intelligence.

It has nothing to do with intelligence per se but with the ability of a program/robot/whatever to fool a human into thinking it is a sapient intelligent living sentient being (otherwise known in some scientific circles as a hewmon).

That's why cleverbot, a chatbot whose responses are not programmed, but are selected from what humans entered in previous conversations (by simply remembering what a human answered and then just reproducing it again, with typos and all... no actual intelligence in any way), can pass the Turing test.
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Old September 29 2012, 06:33 AM   #10
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They can be "intelligent" without being "conscious."

Exactly. It's all about following a set of rules. And in the case of the Turing Test, they're following the rules closely enough to be able to pass as human. Or more precisely, the bots have been programmed to behave more like a human would play, well enough. What I'd love to see are bots that evolve to the playstyles of different people in a game like this.
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Old September 29 2012, 06:46 AM   #11
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Yeah, but now it's murder instead of harmless fun!
It'll be OK so long as we program them to believe that giving their lives for our pleasure will guarantee them a place in Silicon Heaven, where the Iron shall lay down with the Lamp...
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Old September 29 2012, 10:21 AM   #12
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Data would fail on this variant of the Turing test.
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Old October 1 2012, 02:42 PM   #13
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Data would fail on this variant of the Turing test.
Why?

Data would pass a Turing Test.. he may come off as the most humorless man but he'd still pass.

With this i believe Data would be able to adapt and throw in some mistakes and maybe bad tactics to appear human.. he also slow down his reflexes to human levels otherwise you'd have no chance against his precision.
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They can be "intelligent" without being "conscious."

Exactly. It's all about following a set of rules. And in the case of the Turing Test, they're following the rules closely enough to be able to pass as human. Or more precisely, the bots have been programmed to behave more like a human would play, well enough. What I'd love to see are bots that evolve to the playstyles of different people in a game like this.
Genetic algorithms would probably be very helpful in this problem domain, especially since you've got lots of input to work with.

The "fitness" tests would be:

* What tactics allow the bot to survive the longest?
* What tactics allow the bot to rack up the most kills?

The trick would be balancing those goals.
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Old October 1 2012, 06:26 PM   #15
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And analyze your opponents and adapt. If they're killing the bot easily, then the bot should change its tactics and learn from its session. I'd be impressed if I were to join a session and find a bot has taken a bit from past opponents to better itself.
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