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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Spock/Uhura pairing?
I LOVE them together! 29 46.77%
I generally think they’re okay together. 12 19.35%
Not my preference, but I don’t mind them together. 13 20.97%
I HATE them together. 8 12.90%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old September 27 2012, 07:32 PM   #151
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breaking them up wouldn't make any make sense for the writers like Zoe Saldana said why bother with their relationship if you are not gonna stand by it and further develop it in the sequel?
They also did give a lot of space to it in the novels and plenty of hints in the comics.
This is one of the few things that make this THEIR own star trek.


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At this point, I'm not even sure that I want to respond. If you don't like them, you don't like them. But please, don't say it's not necessary and other things are (relationship-wise), and then say that you're not basing things off of the previous timeline.


I was about to write something similar.
and sorry Ufo, I don't have the energy to read everything you said and reply again. I don't want to go off topic again, plus it's pretty much obvious that you are as biased as the rest of us is although from the tone of your posts I bet you think that your interpretations are undeniable absolute facts.

anyway this bit did give me a good laugh:

The fact I am happy for Uhura to have a relationship with anyone who is actually available, argues against any sort of prejudice surely
I do wonder what or who makes Spock not "actually available" Geez Uhura get your hand off him! He's not available for you! I guess you're one of those Spock is asexual fans. Except he wasn't one even in TOS but hey... Let's agree to disagree about everything here.


First, as mentioned, it was only "sudden" from our point of view.
and we can say the same about the ones that dislike Spock/Uhura for the same reason

It seems you were suffering from shock (of more than one type), not implausibility.
same as above

It could have easily progress over years of "prime time", to coin a phrase, before STV. It just didn’t show up on screen before that.
same could be said about Spock/Uhura both in TOS and ST09
but I thought that what wasn't showed on screen never happened and therefore is not canon. This is all plot bunnies.

my point stands that neither Scotty/Uhura nor Spock/Uhura happened in TOS and are canon there. They did happen only in the movies (about different realities).
Then, If we want to talk about hints from TOS then Nichelle Nichols is totally right. Between the two the only CANON clues we could find in TOS did hint to Spock/Uhura and never to Scotty/Uhura. Whatever you think that happened offscreen between Scotty/Uhura is up to you and your opinion. It's also called fanfiction. But it makes your argument against Spock/Uhura hypocritical for afore mentioned reasons and the number of excuses you are using to justify Scotty/Uhura all the while denying Spock/Uhura for the reasons that seem to make you believe that the first were not only believable but happened (of screen, in your fantasy) in TOS
all the while denying or minimize the actual hints of Spock/Uhura
The funniest part is that your argument is that according to you Uhura flirting with Spock is no hint of any romantic interest from her part BUT, according to you, we're supposed to believe that she had a romantic interest for Scotty because, according to you, it happened of screen.. it just wasn't showed to us! too bad..




Where is the double standard here? I’m not seeing it.
I see plenty but I won't argument this more than that
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Old September 27 2012, 08:44 PM   #152
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I'd rather they didn't do this but I don't mind that much.
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Old September 28 2012, 12:18 AM   #153
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breaking them up wouldn't make any make sense for the writers like Zoe Saldana said why bother with their relationship if you are not gonna stand by it and further develop it in the sequel?
They also did give a lot of space to it in the novels and plenty of hints in the comics.
What novels? The four JJ novels that were contracted and written have never been released.
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Old September 28 2012, 12:37 AM   #154
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I'm guessing the young adult Starfleet Academy books. I've read the first two, and... meh. I want my nuTrek in 400 page doses, by writers who know the Trekverse backwards.
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Old September 28 2012, 12:38 AM   #155
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I want those novels so bad!
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Old September 28 2012, 01:26 AM   #156
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So I've been thinking about what may come in ST:XII.

Spock and Uhura: The Breakup
Possibilities

1. The Obvious. Spock decides that "following his heart" means rebuilding his people and not just with some DNA donations. T'Somebody must be in the picture and that means Uhura must graciously step aside having lost her man to a planet.

Fan Reaction: Everybody cries and Spock's noble angsty sacrifice elevates him to an iconic status several levels above his current iconic status even though we thought he was at the very top already.

2. The Fates. Spock and/or Uhura go through some terrible trauma at the end of which one or both look at each other with the calm, cooling realization that it is not meant to be.

Fan Reaction: One million posts agonizing, defending, weeping, gloating over why it was not meant to be.

3. The Disappointment. Faced with a terrible dilemma Spock makes an ethically dubious decision based on logic and something precious to Uhura dies or is compromised. Uhura dumps him. The look of hurt on her face is heart wrenching but she also manages to look noble and hot.

Fan Reaction: wtf bitching explodes the internet.

4. The Fantasy. One day Uhura is somewhere she is not supposed to be and she sees Kirk and Spock in flagrante delicto. She accuses Spock of using her as a decoy all this time and despite his assurances that really, being with her is quite pleasant the relationship is over.

Fan Reaction: teacake makes an avatar of NuSpock's face with NOT.HET. superimposed over it. Youtube melts down under the heat of ten thousand new slash uploads. The term "fanwank" is suddenly understood by normal people in the street.

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Old September 28 2012, 01:43 AM   #157
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Old September 28 2012, 02:06 AM   #158
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For the slash fiction, of course!
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Old September 28 2012, 09:09 AM   #159
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breaking them up wouldn't make any make sense for the writers like Zoe Saldana said why bother with their relationship if you are not gonna stand by it and further develop it in the sequel?
They also did give a lot of space to it in the novels and plenty of hints in the comics.
What novels? The four JJ novels that were contracted and written have never been released.
like someone already answered I'm talking about the Starfleet Academy series.
Those set up the background and backstory of Spock and Uhura how they started their friendship and then fell in love.

I've read somewhere that both the comics and the novels are somehow canon because the writers ( Orci said it) need to approve them to a degree and the novels cannot have in them anything that the writers don't want them to have. I'd say it's a grey area between canon and non canon, they're still interesting though if you want to know how they got together.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:13 AM   #160
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So, how did they get together?

Does it address the tutor/student issue?

If it's written for a young market I'm guessing there is no going where no Spock has gone before in it.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:20 AM   #161
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breaking them up wouldn't make any make sense for the writers like Zoe Saldana said why bother with their relationship if you are not gonna stand by it and further develop it in the sequel?
They also did give a lot of space to it in the novels and plenty of hints in the comics.
What novels? The four JJ novels that were contracted and written have never been released.
like someone already answered I'm talking about the Starfleet Academy series.
Those set up the background and backstory of Spock and Uhura how they started their friendship and then fell in love.

I've read somewhere that both the comics and the novels are somehow canon because the writers ( Orci said it) need to approve them to a degree and the novels cannot have in them anything that the writers don't want them to have. I'd say it's a grey area between canon and non canon, they're still interesting though if you want to know how they got together.
That's interesting to know. I probably won't read them because I got the background story that I'm happy with from fanfiction. And the lady that wrote those sequential stories did address the teacher/student thing head on.

More Spock/Uhura

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Old September 28 2012, 03:17 PM   #162
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So, how did they get together?

Does it address the tutor/student issue?

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To borrow what someone else said:
naverhtrad wrote:
Spock and Uhura definitely make for a good couple - similar enough in terms of implied intellectual ability and shared interests not to be baseless, but dissimilar enough to be complementary (the emotional/stoic thing).
There is chemistry as they like to work together and spend time together, you get to see them becoming friends so when they get together it feels organic and it makes sense.
Keep note that he was her teacher since her first year at the academy so in the movie they knew each other since four years. The tutor/student issue (if any) hadn't been addressed yet as they get together only in the last published novel that is the third year at the academy for Uhura and I don't know if by the time he still was her teacher or she was just his TA. I remember though at least one instance where it's implied that they hold back a bit because of that. Only when they're not wearing their uniforms she will call him Spock and he will call her Nyota.

If it's written for a young market I'm guessing there is no going where no Spock has gone before in it
it's subtle and in character....
true enough, the comics were more explicit with that shot of them talking in his quarters....
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Old September 28 2012, 04:04 PM   #163
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I've read somewhere that both the comics and the novels are somehow canon because the writers ( Orci said it) need to approve them to a degree and the novels cannot have in them anything that the writers don't want them to have. I'd say it's a grey area between canon and non canon, they're still interesting though if you want to know how they got together.
They're not canon, Orci was pushed into saying they were by an interviewer a few weeks back, but retracted it very quickly in the comments section.

Bad Robot are just very protective of their universe (not that it helps, the first two Academy novels had a few contradicions that should have been easily spotted - in The Delta Anomaly, San Fransisco is a dangerous place with violent gangs, wheras in The Edge there is virtually no crime on Earth)
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Old September 28 2012, 06:15 PM   #164
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Spock and Uhura: The Breakup Possibilities

4. The Fantasy. One day Uhura is somewhere she is not supposed to be and she sees Kirk and Spock in flagrante delicto. She accuses Spock of using her as a decoy all this time and despite his assurances that really, being with her is quite pleasant the relationship is over.

Fan Reaction: teacake makes an avatar of NuSpock's face with NOT.HET. superimposed over it. Youtube melts down under the heat of ten thousand new slash uploads. The term "fanwank" is suddenly understood by normal people in the street.
4-B. The Fantasy...inverted: What starts as a simply platonic "Ladies Night Out" for Uhura and M'Ress takes a turn for the, ahem, romantic when quantities of alcohol and 'nip are consumed. And despite a moment of awkardness the next morning, they realize the substances merely revealed what they already felt, having known each other at the academy. Spock steps aside, knowing he need not worry about Uhura's feelings when the new Vulcan colony requests he contribute to the repopulation of his species.

Fan Reaction: After a few holdouts pass out from continually shrieking, "Eww! Furry!" the rest realize, "Hey! Girl on girl! What's not to like?!" and the negativity generated by things like the infamous CSI episode, the MTV special and the Vogue article are eventually forgotten. (Hey, this was labeled a "fantasy"! )

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Old September 29 2012, 12:57 AM   #165
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Spock and Uhura: The Breakup Possibilities

4. The Fantasy. One day Uhura is somewhere she is not supposed to be and she sees Kirk and Spock in flagrante delicto. She accuses Spock of using her as a decoy all this time and despite his assurances that really, being with her is quite pleasant the relationship is over.

Fan Reaction: teacake makes an avatar of NuSpock's face with NOT.HET. superimposed over it. Youtube melts down under the heat of ten thousand new slash uploads. The term "fanwank" is suddenly understood by normal people in the street.
4-B. The Fantasy...inverted: What starts as a simply platonic "Ladies Night Out" for Uhura and M'Ress takes a turn for the, ahem, romantic when quantities of alcohol and 'nip are consumed. And despite a moment of awkardness the next morning, they realize the substances merely revealed what they already felt, having known each other at the academy. Spock steps aside, knowing he need not worry about Uhura's feelings when the new Vulcan colony requests he contribute to the repopulation of his species.

Fan Reaction: After a few holdouts pass out from continually shrieking, "Eww! Furry!" the rest realize, "Hey! Girl on girl! What's not to like?!" and the negativity generated by things like the infamous CSI episode, the MTV special and the Vogue article are eventually forgotten. (Hey, this was labeled a "fantasy"! )

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