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Old September 27 2012, 11:25 PM   #1
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Enterprise-D vs. Voyager (extenuating circumstances)

The Enterprise-D and The Voyager meet in the Beta Quadrant. Both believe the other needs to be destroyed for some strange reason. Communication with Starfleet is impossible.

The Enterprise-D has onboard Reginald Barclay after his intelligence was fully enhanced by the Cytherians. The Voyager has the 29th century Borg onboard.

Each ship has their normal complement, but the aformentioned individuals are the acting captains for this scenario.

Also, calling upon allies is not possible, and this is the 4th season version for both ships. Who wins this battle?

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Old September 27 2012, 11:29 PM   #2
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Re: Enterprise-D vs. Voyager (extenuating circumstances)

This is the case of a battleship vs a destroyer pretty much. The E-D wins easily... as the 29th century Borg said, there's only so many enhancements a ship can make based on the technology it has so that would pretty much cancel each other out.
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Old September 28 2012, 01:17 AM   #3
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Voyager has more firepower than the Enterprise, though, correct?
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Old September 28 2012, 01:26 AM   #4
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Re: Enterprise-D vs. Voyager (extenuating circumstances)

I'd say the Enterprise, since Barclay was able to do things far beyond what the drone could do.
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Old September 28 2012, 01:31 AM   #5
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Re: Enterprise-D vs. Voyager (extenuating circumstances)

In a Star Trek battle between two ships, one named Enterprise, the other not, the Enterprise will almost always win... eventually. Even if it takes two hours of running time and/or a bunch of children to do it.
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Old September 28 2012, 01:32 AM   #6
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Voyager has more firepower than the Enterprise, though, correct?
No.. Voyager's about half the size of Enterprise-D.

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Old September 28 2012, 01:33 AM   #7
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I'd say the Enterprise, since Barclay was able to do things far beyond what the drone could do.
You're probably right. If Barclay was able to create a 'portal' in space, which whisked the Enterprise to the center of the galaxy, I doubt anything the Borg drone could do to the Voyager would matter. In fact, Barclay probably could've figured out a way to defeat the Borg shielding the Voyager employed in "Endgame."
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Old September 28 2012, 04:06 AM   #8
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If pound for pound and ton for ton, both ship's were equal then the Enterprise wins. The Enterprise simply brings more of everything to a fight. Let's say that in the opening moment of the battle both ship's lose a 150 people, the Voyager now has no crew and is lifeless, the Enterprise has another 850 people for a victory party.

It's like a well muscled 6 year old taking on a 20 year old prize fighter.

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Old September 28 2012, 04:43 AM   #9
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Voyager has more firepower than the Enterprise, though, correct?
No.. Voyager's about half the size of Enterprise-D.

A smaller size doesn't necessarily translate to less firepower, though. Voyager is smaller than the Enterprise but is capable of faster speeds.
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Old September 28 2012, 04:46 AM   #10
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Enterprise F?

Enterprise G?

WTF?

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Old September 28 2012, 04:47 AM   #11
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I think those were from fan productions... everything else is accurate.

And of course Voyager is faster, it's smaller. That doesn't translate to great combat ability though.
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Old September 28 2012, 05:08 AM   #12
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Well, R. Star, the Borg Cubes are much more massive than the Enterprise or Voyager, but they are faster than both.
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Old September 28 2012, 05:57 AM   #13
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Well, R. Star, the Borg Cubes are much more massive than the Enterprise or Voyager, but they are faster than both.
Because they have a superior propulsion system since we're stating the obvious. We're talking about two Federation vessels from roughly the same time period of differing sizes.
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Old September 28 2012, 10:46 PM   #14
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How fast can the Defiant travel, R.?
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Old September 30 2012, 01:12 AM   #15
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Voyager has more firepower than the Enterprise, though, correct?
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Voyager has more firepower than the Enterprise, though, correct?
No.. Voyager's about half the size of Enterprise-D.
No, Voyager is around 7 times smaller. Even if there are large recreational areas on Galaxy, and even if you take the background info that it's 1/4 empty, there is still a significant gulf in sheer power to be overcome. The only way Voyager would win is throught some sort of trickery, like the BoP in Generations.
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