7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) - Page 10

Worf2DS9 · September 26 2012, 11:56 PM

^Regardless, I tweeted SPACE that they should change that onscreen graphic to say MID-Season Finale.

Allyn Gibson · September 27 2012, 12:53 AM

Worf2DS9 wrote:

^Regardless, I tweeted SPACE that they should change that onscreen graphic to say MID-Season Finale.

It's a little more complicated than that. There are indications that the production team is treating the Amy episodes and the Oswin episodes as two entirely different series, just shot in one production cycle. Tom Spillsbury recently set Ian Levine off on Twitter when he referred to the just-finished script for the post-Christmas episode as a the first episode of the next series. Worldwide is telling their merchandising partners that the first five are separate from Christmas and beyond. I'm honestly surprised that the DVD packaging for the first five calls it "Series Seven Part 1" because that's not what Worldwide has told people it was going to be called; according to e-mails i've received at work, Christmas and beyond is being called "Series Eight."

doubleohfive · September 27 2012, 12:58 AM

It's also called "Series 7, Part 1" on iTunes as well.

I don't know if it's a similar situation to how we do things here in the US, but it could be like what happened on my show last year - we were picked up for a sixth season (13 episodes) fulfilling the original contracts that had been negotiated with our actors; in the middle of our production cycle, the network ordered an additional ten episodes, which we (internally and not on paper) referred to as "Season 7" because we had no idea when they would air.

As it turned out, the network only let five weeks go by in between these two batches of episodes, so it was genuinely a "Season 6, Part 1" and "Season 6, Part 2" for us... but my point is simply it could be a matter of actor contracts and salaries. In our case, we lobbed everything under the nomenclature of "Season 6" in order to keep all our actors and to pay them the same rates; had we officially (and on paper) called it "Season 7" we would have had to renegotiate with everyone in the cast and on top of that everyone on staff who would be returning would be entitled to a 3% bump in their paychecks.

But that's all on an American show. I have no idea how it works on BBC series, but it is something to consider -- with Gillan and Darvill leaving, it could just be that even though it's technically a "new" season (as in, series 8), they've for all intents and purposes been referring to it as and keeping it as "Series 7" so as not to have to renegotiate with Smith or any of the other production crew who might otherwise be entitled to pay raises.

Just my theorizing two cents

Mike Farley · September 27 2012, 07:54 PM

So are the Ponds leaving this weekend, or in the Christmas episode?

Sindatur · September 27 2012, 08:05 PM

Mike Farley wrote:

So are the Ponds leaving this weekend, or in the Christmas episode?

Should be this weekend

The Wormhole · September 27 2012, 11:02 PM

Yes, this weekend is the Ponds' tearful good-bye. Clara begins travelling with the Doctor at Christmas.

Cutter John · September 27 2012, 11:30 PM

Damn that was a fast five weeks.

Emh · September 27 2012, 11:38 PM

Indeed. And it's going to be a long 3 months.

Sindatur · September 28 2012, 01:30 AM

Emh wrote:

Indeed. And it's going to be a long 3 months.

And then a long 4+ months

But, maybe we'll get the other 8 by April, and then only wait a month or two after them to get a full season back to back, plus the 50th Anniversary Special and 2013 Christmas Special

ATimson · September 29 2012, 12:47 AM

Sindatur wrote:

But, maybe we'll get the other 8 by April, and then only wait a month or two after them to get a full season back to back, plus the 50th Anniversary Special and 2013 Christmas Special

Hardly - I'm pretty sure it's going to be the back 8, anniversary, and Christmas next year, for a total of 10 episodes. They don't have time to shoot another 15 episodes to air in 2013.

DWF · September 29 2012, 01:17 AM

ATimson wrote:

Sindatur wrote:

But, maybe we'll get the other 8 by April, and then only wait a month or two after them to get a full season back to back, plus the 50th Anniversary Special and 2013 Christmas Special

Hardly - I'm pretty sure it's going to be the back 8, anniversary, and Christmas next year, for a total of 10 episodes. They don't have time to shoot another 15 episodes to air in 2013.

There's talk of them filming for a year, so I'd expect 15 eps. with season 8.

The Wormhole · September 29 2012, 01:38 AM

It's already been confirmed by BBC, Moffat and Matt Smith that 2013 will consist of the remaining S7 episodes, an undisclosed number of specials similar to what we had in 2009 to celebrate the 50th anniversary and a Christmas special. There won't be another full season until 2014.

Mr Light · September 29 2012, 01:48 AM

Damn, at first I thought you said 2013 will consist of 57 episodes

Emh · September 29 2012, 01:58 AM

So did I! Now I'm really disappointed.

The Wormhole · September 29 2012, 02:27 AM

I realized someone was going to make that mistake as I was typing it. Then I decided to leave it there anyway.

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September 26 2012, 11:56 PM	#136
Worf2DS9 Writer Location: Canada, eh	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) ^Regardless, I tweeted SPACE that they should change that onscreen graphic to say MID-Season Finale. __________________ Shorts in: SNW5 \| SNW7 \| SNW9 + Star Trek: Corps of Engineers - "The Light" + Full Throttle Space Tales #3: Space Grunts - "Rush"

September 27 2012, 12:58 AM	#138
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) It's also called "Series 7, Part 1" on iTunes as well. I don't know if it's a similar situation to how we do things here in the US, but it could be like what happened on my show last year - we were picked up for a sixth season (13 episodes) fulfilling the original contracts that had been negotiated with our actors; in the middle of our production cycle, the network ordered an additional ten episodes, which we (internally and not on paper) referred to as "Season 7" because we had no idea when they would air. As it turned out, the network only let five weeks go by in between these two batches of episodes, so it was genuinely a "Season 6, Part 1" and "Season 6, Part 2" for us... but my point is simply it could be a matter of actor contracts and salaries. In our case, we lobbed everything under the nomenclature of "Season 6" in order to keep all our actors and to pay them the same rates; had we officially (and on paper) called it "Season 7" we would have had to renegotiate with everyone in the cast and on top of that everyone on staff who would be returning would be entitled to a 3% bump in their paychecks. But that's all on an American show. I have no idea how it works on BBC series, but it is something to consider -- with Gillan and Darvill leaving, it could just be that even though it's technically a "new" season (as in, series 8), they've for all intents and purposes been referring to it as and keeping it as "Series 7" so as not to have to renegotiate with Smith or any of the other production crew who might otherwise be entitled to pay raises. Just my theorizing two cents __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

September 27 2012, 07:54 PM	#139
Mike Farley Commodore Location: Lost Vegas	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) So are the Ponds leaving this weekend, or in the Christmas episode?

September 27 2012, 11:02 PM	#141
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September 27 2012, 11:30 PM	#142
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) Damn that was a fast five weeks. __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."

September 27 2012, 11:38 PM	#143
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) Indeed. And it's going to be a long 3 months. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

September 29 2012, 01:38 AM	#147
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) It's already been confirmed by BBC, Moffat and Matt Smith that 2013 will consist of the remaining S7 episodes, an undisclosed number of specials similar to what we had in 2009 to celebrate the 50th anniversary and a Christmas special. There won't be another full season until 2014. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.

September 29 2012, 01:48 AM	#148
Mr Light Admiral Location: Pennsylvania	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) Damn, at first I thought you said 2013 will consist of 57 episodes __________________

September 29 2012, 01:58 AM	#149
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) So did I! Now I'm really disappointed. __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

September 29 2012, 02:27 AM	#150
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: 7X04 The Power Of Three (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!) I realized someone was going to make that mistake as I was typing it. Then I decided to leave it there anyway. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.