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Old September 25 2012, 05:53 AM   #1
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minister in "Demons" was a demon

I was watching the 4th season episode titled "Demons" trying to figure out where I had seen the actor who plays the minister when it suddenly hit me: he was Buffy's high school principal who wanted to turn into a demon by eating all the students. Was he cast in an episode with this title on purpose? ahah!
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Old September 25 2012, 07:24 AM   #2
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

I just loved the scene where the minister ate Quark.

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Old September 25 2012, 02:55 PM   #3
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

He was also the whiny Betazoid in Next Gen's "Tin Man"
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Old September 26 2012, 01:17 AM   #4
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

Wow, I finished the second half and was really surprised he didn't turn out bad. He seemed waaay too insistent the the facility be destroyed immediately. As if they had something on him. Perhaps his character was being set up to be a stealth bad guy had there been another season....
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Old September 26 2012, 08:08 AM   #5
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

I think he represented Earth's bureaucracy tripping over its own feet.
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Old September 26 2012, 08:42 AM   #6
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

I found it ridiculous how this guy represented the Government as either a high official or the highest official, dozens of levels above the usual lot who boss Johno around, but Archer abused him like a Muppet.
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Old September 27 2012, 07:58 AM   #7
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

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I think he represented Earth's bureaucracy tripping over its own feet.
ok, I'll bite; why the heck do you have "not dead" imposed over Janeway's mug shot? Did Mulgrew pass away recently?
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Old September 27 2012, 10:41 AM   #8
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

No, Janeway was killed off in Treklit five years ago to some controversy. She has now been returned from the dead in the latest Voyager book. In the lead up to the book there was a lot of debate and speculation that she might return in it. I made the avatar prior to the books publication to serve as either a triumphant announcement or a protest depending on her fate.

The not.dead. meme was popular on this board after Trip died in TATV.
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Old September 27 2012, 09:16 PM   #9
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Re: minister in "Demons" was a demon

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I found it ridiculous how this guy represented the Government as either a high official or the highest official, dozens of levels above the usual lot who boss Johno around, but Archer abused him like a Muppet.
IIRC, there's a scene where Samuels tries to give Hoshi an order but she doesn't follow it. Since he's Prime Minister - the head of government for all Earth - shouldn't he also be her Commander in Chief?

Perhaps Earth's rules work differently. Maybe it's the Earth head of STATE (the President) who fulfills this role. Or maybe it's neither. Or maybe I need a drink.
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Old September 27 2012, 09:18 PM   #10
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Samuels being the Prime Minister didn't happen until the books, so it's no surprise that he didn't have any military authority in the show.
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Old September 28 2012, 02:48 AM   #11
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Perhaps Earth's rules work differently. Maybe it's the Earth head of STATE (the President) who fulfills this role. Or maybe it's neither. Or maybe I need a drink.
Ah, see there's a big difference between being Commander in Chief and being the commanding officer. It goes from the CiC to the Department of Defense and then on to the appropriate commanders. See the Goldwater-Nichols Act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwat...%93Nichols_Act
... so the CiC doesn't bark orders directly at commanders in the middle of an operation.
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Old September 28 2012, 02:54 AM   #12
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No, Janeway was killed off in Treklit five years ago to some controversy.
Ah, I see; alas I only have the temperance to sit through the shows. I haven't read any of the novels since one where Captain Kirk was adopted as an honorary member of some alien race and they insisted on calling him by his complete name every time one talked to him.

By an amazing coincidence I remember that when watching Voyager I mentally referred to Captain Janeway as "Cupcake".
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Old September 28 2012, 02:59 AM   #13
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JJ must have stolen that from your mind. You should really write him a letter.
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Old September 28 2012, 03:33 PM   #14
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JJ must have stolen that from your mind. You should really write him a letter.
And Let's not forget Captain Lochley on Babylon 5 was referred to on the Internet as Capt. Cupcake
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Old September 28 2012, 03:36 PM   #15
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The internet, pfft..

(wait.. did I say that?)
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