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Old September 24 2012, 10:38 PM   #16
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Re: Oh No!

Hmmm... To me, the Botany Bay without a conning tower is like the Enterprise without a saucer section -- it's too iconic to ditch.
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Old September 25 2012, 03:03 AM   #17
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While I agree with SonicRanger about the conning tower, I have to say that I'm in love with your redesigned Botany Bay. Those landing pods are magnificent, too. Nice homage.
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Old September 25 2012, 05:32 PM   #18
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I'm almost a little surprised that your Botany Bay redesign has been taken as well to as she has, especially given that, canonically speaking, there is no reason that her design should have changed.

But if everyone else is okay with the redesign, then so am I.
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Old September 26 2012, 05:01 AM   #19
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Hey Madman, one question: She seems a little small to be carrying 70 people plus all the gear they'd need to found a colony. Am I misjudging the scale wrong, because those landers look about Apollo-sized?
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Old September 26 2012, 06:09 AM   #20
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In post #15 he says the pods are about twice the size of a Dragon capsule. Since the Dragon is designed to hold 7 people I am guessing these can hold at least 15 each.
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Old September 26 2012, 09:55 AM   #21
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That's what I get for not making sure I hadn't skipped any posts...

Still seems a little small for the amount of cargo, etc they'd also need to send down. Esp since those capsules look to be "one way" types.
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Old September 26 2012, 01:03 PM   #22
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Re: Oh No!

Thanks for all the compliments, guys.

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I'm almost a little surprised that your Botany Bay redesign has been taken as well to as she has, especially given that, canonically speaking, there is no reason that her design should have changed.

But if everyone else is okay with the redesign, then so am I.
Yeah, I know that the official line is that everything up until the destruction of the Kelvin is supposed to be the same as in TOS, I don't really that would keep them from radically changing what different elements would look like. Take Starfleet Academy and San Francisco for example... a totally different approach.

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Hey Madman, one question: She seems a little small to be carrying 70 people plus all the gear they'd need to found a colony. Am I misjudging the scale wrong, because those landers look about Apollo-sized?
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That's what I get for not making sure I hadn't skipped any posts...

Still seems a little small for the amount of cargo, etc they'd also need to send down. Esp since those capsules look to be "one way" types.
I was thinking 18-20 each... and the command module up front can separate and land as well, if it has to. Also, the cargo modules are habitable, and I was thinking that they might be able to spin, to provide a little artificial gravity. The original Botany Bay had full on artificial gravity, so I thought I should acknowledge that.

1 deck on each side of the rotating sections, where I'd imagine the cryo chambers are. Behind that is the reactor, to power the ion engines.



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Old September 26 2012, 01:19 PM   #23
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Would that be 18-20 people PLUS cargo or without cargo?
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Old September 27 2012, 12:55 AM   #24
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MadMan1701A wrote: View Post
Hey guys.

Over in the STXI thread about the official poster being released, I stuck in a few fake posters of my own. Of course they were spotted as fake right away, but I think they look pretty neat.

They were both to tease the Botany Bay model that I have been working on for about 3 months... and this makes the first model I finished since my son's been born. He sat here with me for quite a while when I was making this one.

Anyway, here are the posters!



Larger: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...psd3611d5d.jpg

And the next one... I'm surprised they figured out where the helmet was from, so fast! It's from the movie Red Planet.



Larger:http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ps915e7463.jpg

And, the Botany Bay! It even has lasers and missile launchers and everything!



1920x1080: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ps2a520fbf.jpg



1920x1080: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ps14cfe571.jpg

So, what do y'all think?

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Old September 27 2012, 03:52 AM   #25
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Ian Keldon wrote: View Post
Would that be 18-20 people PLUS cargo or without cargo?
Without, I would think. The cargo would have to be in the big outer sections, but I'm not sure how they would get those out of orbit, except just to crash them.
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Old September 27 2012, 03:53 AM   #26
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Re: Oh No!

Irishman wrote: View Post
MadMan1701A wrote: View Post
Hey guys.

Over in the STXI thread about the official poster being released, I stuck in a few fake posters of my own. Of course they were spotted as fake right away, but I think they look pretty neat.

They were both to tease the Botany Bay model that I have been working on for about 3 months... and this makes the first model I finished since my son's been born. He sat here with me for quite a while when I was making this one.

Anyway, here are the posters!



Larger: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...psd3611d5d.jpg

And the next one... I'm surprised they figured out where the helmet was from, so fast! It's from the movie Red Planet.



Larger:http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ps915e7463.jpg

And, the Botany Bay! It even has lasers and missile launchers and everything!



1920x1080: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ps2a520fbf.jpg



1920x1080: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ps14cfe571.jpg

So, what do y'all think?

-Ricky
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Later than 1997... probably mid to late 21st century?
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Old September 30 2012, 09:28 PM   #27
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No Lief Erikson conning tower, but maybe some vertical antenna masts to echo its location.
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