Did the Voyager crew make the wrong call in Memorial? "

[teacake]

Teri Garr was my first girl Trek crush. As I may have said in some past post..

Actually I could just add that last sentence to everything.

[Guy Gardener]

She was my second.

There's something about how well Sally Kellerman can open her mouth.

She reminds me of Miss Pac-Man sometimes.

[teacake]

*chomp* *chomp* *chomp* *chomp*

hmm...

[Guy Gardener]

Was Pac-Man and Ms, it's Ms Pac-Man on captain N? I only ask because I wonder I wonder how the Mans' would deal with a real threat like Donkey Kong?

[T'Girl]

Misters should alway worry when the Ms's new lover has the nickname of "donkey."

[Guy Gardener]

Donkey Kong, not Donkey Dong.

I swear that women just want nothing to be innocent and chaste.

[teacake]

No, that's furries you're thinking of.

[R. Star]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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Donkey Kong, not Donkey Dong.

I swear that women just want nothing to be innocent and chaste.

Hey, you're the one bringing up Mario's giant monkey!

[Guy Gardener]

It's not his monkey, just something he plays with.

[Anwar]

"I know that monkey, his name is Donkey!"

"Monkeys aren't donkeys, quit messing with my head!"

[Guy Gardener]

There's mess between your ears made by donkeys and monkeys?

[Alpha Flyer]

Funny how discussions always go pear shaped on Page 3, just when I have time to log in and have a look.

So -- we've had this discussion before in another thread, haven't we? So I shan't entirely repeat myself, except to make the following points:

1. Reminding outsiders of atrocities, giving victims a voice, is inherently a Good Thing (see Auschwitz, Rwanda, Cambodia, Srebenica...). When an act of remembrance is carried out by the perpetrators as an act of genuine repentance, it is awesome.

2. Forcing yourself into someone else's head without their knowledge or consent is inherently a Bad Thing.

3. When #1 and #2 collide you have competing issues, of equal value, and it makes for an interesting script. (QED: I've only been on this board for a couple of months and this is the second time there's been a discussion on this.) This is a Very Good Thing.

4. Keeping the memorial functioning is important to maintain the intent and benefit of #1.

5. Warning incoming travellers of what it does mitigates the possible damage done by #2.

6. Not giving PTSD counselling to affected crew members, and forcing those who suffered most to restore the Memorial is a demonstration of shitty and insensitive personnel management.

There.

My $0.02.

[Guy Gardener]

1. Possibly. John Gill thought that with some tweaks that he could get National Socialism right. You can't guarantee that everyone will understand the message you broadcast in the right way.

2. They didn't plan on anyone stupid or ignorant enough to fly within range of their rape machine because they're morons.

3. Noobs always bite onto the same topics. Remember Bill Murray in Groundhog day? you get the chance to recompose the same arguments until no one can find a counter to your point of view.

4. If there's a memorial in space and no one knows it's there does it really exist?

5. Warning or inviting?

6. The psychological tests given to cadets during their education (re Wes in TNG season 1.) are supposed to make these invulnerable to such minor annoyances.

[teacake]

Alpha Flyer wrote:

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So -- we've had this discussion before in another thread, haven't we?

TUVIX IS COMING.

Qutlunch is up to Tuvix as soon as she gets the dvd.

Guy Gardener wrote:

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3. Noobs always bite onto the same topics.

But.. what is my excuse?

[Guy Gardener]

Baiting noobs for a good whack.

Beisdes, you're still a noob to me.

Have some more Sherry.