RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,692
Posts: 5,430,958
Members: 24,828
Currently online: 521
Newest member: ncc1500


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek TV Series > Enterprise

Enterprise The final frontier has a new beginning in this forum!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 23 2012, 02:42 AM   #16
Ar-Pharazon
Rear Admiral
 
Ar-Pharazon's Avatar
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

Tiberius wrote: View Post
BillJ wrote: View Post
It's grown on me over the years, but I'd rather have John Eaves original design.
Got a link to this?
I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

__________________
Rimmer, on what period of history to live in-
“Well, It’d be the 19th century for me, one of Napoleon’s marshals.
The chance to march across Europe with the greatest general of all time and kill Belgians” - (White Hole).
Ar-Pharazon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 03:58 AM   #17
Tiberius
Commodore
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

Yeah, that looks like it's closely related to the Sovereign...
Tiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 04:10 AM   #18
R. Star
Rear Admiral
 
R. Star's Avatar
 
Location: Shangri-La
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

And I'll say the same thing in this thread that I did in the song bashing thread. Enterprise has a ton of issues, but the NX design isn't one of them. It wasn't my favorite design, but it was functional and worked for the series.

Enterprise had tons of flashy graphics and visual effects, that was hardly the problem.
__________________
"I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams
R. Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 04:21 AM   #19
Skywalker
Admiral
 
Skywalker's Avatar
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

Ar-Pharazon wrote: View Post
Tiberius wrote: View Post
BillJ wrote: View Post
It's grown on me over the years, but I'd rather have John Eaves original design.
Got a link to this?
I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

I'm glad we didn't get that. It's way too similar to future Starfleet designs. That's also why I'm not a fan of the secondary hull refit they did for Ships of the Line.
Skywalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 11:58 AM   #20
King Daniel Into Darkness
Admiral
 
King Daniel Into Darkness's Avatar
 
Location: England again
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

Ar-Pharazon wrote: View Post
Tiberius wrote: View Post
BillJ wrote: View Post
It's grown on me over the years, but I'd rather have John Eaves original design.
Got a link to this?
I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

Wasn't there a second concept design? Google image search is failing me, but I remember seeing that pic with another, more like a submarine but with a bridge dome on top and warp nacelles from the sides (which looked like ones from a Klingon Vor'cha class ship)
__________________
Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3
King Daniel Into Darkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 12:09 PM   #21
horatio83
Commodore
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

The problem of this design is the secondary hull. The actual NX is closer to the rocket design of the Phoenix and the NX prototypes and thus emphasized design history better than a ship which would have already featured a secondary hull.
Furthermore the single biggest mistake of the show was that it wasn't rooted deeply enough in the 22nd century. A ship which looks like a 23rd century design would not have alleviated this problem.
__________________
The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer. - former US Secretary of State and unconvicted war criminal Henry Kissinger
horatio83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 01:45 PM   #22
Jimi_James
Lieutenant Commander
 
Jimi_James's Avatar
 
Location: Gettin' Lucky in Kentucky
View Jimi_James's Twitter Profile
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

I liked the design of the NX, though I didn't care for it as a stepping stone towards the eventual TOS Enterprise. It felt out of place and too advanced. Had the show been better overall, I would have likely overlooked the design of the ship, as I have with the design of the Abrams Enterprise, but as Enterprise suffered across the board, the ship is just another problem to throw on the pile.
__________________
“I was here,” says Man. “Prove it,” says the Universe.” Method of Life, a post apocalyptic sci-fi ebook available on Amazon.

My YouTube Gaming Channel
Jimi_James is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 02:13 PM   #23
King Daniel Into Darkness
Admiral
 
King Daniel Into Darkness's Avatar
 
Location: England again
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

I don't buy the NX-01 looking "too advanced" - TOS was made in the 60's, and it shows. If the Gorn from "Arena" is really a fearsome lizard monster when it's obviously a guy in a bad rubber suit, than the original Enterprise is an advanced futuristic starship, whether it looks as it did in 1966 or the 2009 movie.
__________________
Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3
King Daniel Into Darkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 03:15 PM   #24
horatio83
Commodore
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

In a Mirror Darkly showed that in-universe-wise the sleek Constitution looks more modern than the "guts-sticking-out" NX.
__________________
The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer. - former US Secretary of State and unconvicted war criminal Henry Kissinger
horatio83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 06:47 PM   #25
C.E. Evans
Vice Admiral
 
C.E. Evans's Avatar
 
Location: Saint Louis (aka Defiance)
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

KingDaniel wrote: View Post
Ar-Pharazon wrote: View Post
Tiberius wrote: View Post

Got a link to this?
I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

Wasn't there a second concept design? Google image search is failing me, but I remember seeing that pic with another, more like a submarine but with a bridge dome on top and warp nacelles from the sides (which looked like ones from a Klingon Vor'cha class ship)
Was it this one?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ept_sketch.jpg
__________________
"Everybody wants to rule the world..."
C.E. Evans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 09:50 PM   #26
King Daniel Into Darkness
Admiral
 
King Daniel Into Darkness's Avatar
 
Location: England again
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

That's the one! Thanks
__________________
Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3
King Daniel Into Darkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 11:36 PM   #27
BillJ
Admiral
 
BillJ's Avatar
 
Location: Covington, Ky.
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

Ar-Pharazon wrote: View Post
Tiberius wrote: View Post
BillJ wrote: View Post
It's grown on me over the years, but I'd rather have John Eaves original design.
Got a link to this?
I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

This is the one. Thanks!
__________________
"I tell you what you all need, you need to take a thirteenth step, down off your high horse." - Hank Hill, King of the Hill
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23 2012, 11:41 PM   #28
Skywalker
Admiral
 
Skywalker's Avatar
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

I would have preferred a design similar to the Conestoga, something closer to the Phoenix's "rocket between two nacelles" look. No bridge on top, though. Put it at the front of the ship.
Skywalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 24 2012, 09:45 PM   #29
6079SmithW
Vice Admiral
 
6079SmithW's Avatar
 
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

horatio83 wrote: View Post
In a Mirror Darkly showed that in-universe-wise the sleek Constitution looks more modern than the "guts-sticking-out" NX.
IAMD is great in that it canonically disproves the fan complaint that the NX is too advanced for a TOS prequel. The prime universe Connie stomped all over everything in the mirror universe. Considering that the mirror NX was likely more advanced than the prime NX due to the nature of MU starfleet it goes to show just how lightyears ahead TOS tech is compared to ENT tech.
__________________
Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space.
6079SmithW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 25 2012, 09:43 PM   #30
Robert D. Robot
Captain
 
Location: Pre-Warp Civilization of New England
Re: NX class and the Akira Class

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
KingDaniel wrote: View Post
Ar-Pharazon wrote: View Post

I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

Wasn't there a second concept design? Google image search is failing me, but I remember seeing that pic with another, more like a submarine but with a bridge dome on top and warp nacelles from the sides (which looked like ones from a Klingon Vor'cha class ship)
Was it this one?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ept_sketch.jpg
I don't care for the version whose sketch is posted above, especially the secondary hull, which looks 'awkward' to me....

I had never seen John Eave's 'second' NX proposal (thank you for including the link!), but I think it is a really nice design. But if the NX we got is the 'Akiraprise', then that second Eave's design would have been the 'Galactiprise' with those retractable nacelles coming out from the sides. I would have liked to have seen the 'Galactiprise' on screen as another early Earth vessel, but still prefer the NX-01 that TPTB gave us.
Robert D. Robot is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:58 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.